I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
[[meta:user:Walter]]
Just to say: As I saw this bounce as well (for goeje.wikimedia.org) I sent a report to noc at wikimedia and to JeLuF. Regards Michael
On 3/17/06, Walter Vermeir walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
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Walter Vermeir wrote:
I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
Apparently, nothing. SpamCop won't provide any evidence of their "spam traps" so we can only flail about randomly guessing at what might have been hit at this point.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On 3/17/06, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Walter Vermeir wrote:
I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
Apparently, nothing. SpamCop won't provide any evidence of their "spam traps" so we can only flail about randomly guessing at what might have been hit at this point.
But we could "object" to the listing, as indicated on the link above, couldn't we? Because if OTRS replies don't come through because we're listed in SpamCop (which many people and servers consider too be a reliable source, I haven't got any experience with it), this is not exactly what we want...
-- Regards Michael Bimmler
As I understand it, Brion contacted them but received no response, or at least, nothing helpful.
Rob Church
On 18/03/06, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/17/06, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Walter Vermeir wrote:
I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
Apparently, nothing. SpamCop won't provide any evidence of their "spam traps" so we can only flail about randomly guessing at what might have been hit at this point.
But we could "object" to the listing, as indicated on the link above, couldn't we? Because if OTRS replies don't come through because we're listed in SpamCop (which many people and servers consider too be a reliable source, I haven't got any experience with it), this is not exactly what we want...
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On 3/18/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
As I understand it, Brion contacted them but received no response, or at least, nothing helpful.
Ah, I see. Pity anyway. Michael
Rob Church
-- Regards Michael Bimmler
Walter Vermeir schreef:
I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
[[meta:user:Walter]]
The block has expired automaticly. Lets hope there will not come new complaints to spamcop. The next time it could be longer.
If I recall correctly, SpamCop blackmails people by asking them to pay to have their address removed.
Mark
On 18/03/06, Michael Bimmler mbimmler@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/17/06, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Walter Vermeir wrote:
I have got a bounce because of this when send a reply to a OTRS-ticket.
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=207.142.131.221
Can be seen what can be done about this?
Apparently, nothing. SpamCop won't provide any evidence of their "spam traps" so we can only flail about randomly guessing at what might have been hit at this point.
But we could "object" to the listing, as indicated on the link above, couldn't we? Because if OTRS replies don't come through because we're listed in SpamCop (which many people and servers consider too be a reliable source, I haven't got any experience with it), this is not exactly what we want...
-- Regards Michael Bimmler _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, Mark Williamson wrote:
If I recall correctly, SpamCop blackmails people by asking them to pay to have their address removed.
Nope. That'd be SORBS. I quote "SORBS Support (Dan)":
Occassional spam is going to happen. And ISP's that take action on spam are quickly delisted. Almost nobody pays the $50 fine to charity. That is rare.
They amount to nothing more than hypocrits and liars.
To summarize the entire exchange, it takes on ONE (1) message, EVER to find yourself listed in their spamtrap senders crap. There is no expiration or automatic deletion; if you don't beg to be removed, it'll sit there until the end of time. (BTW, it only takes *a* message to a spamtrap address; it doesn't have to be spam, anything and everything counts.)
(They may have changed the process in the last 6 months, but I wouldn't count on it.)
--Ricky
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