hi, My hosting provider is very crappy. One of the basic things, i.e. shell access, is not available. This has many disadvantages because I cannot run almost any maintenance scripts. I found that I could use cron scripts to replace a shell, (it does what I would do in a shell), but it is very tedious and has been the cause of many problems. I had to import something to the wiki and ran the scirpt through a cron script but forgot to remove it and it kept importing it over and over till i saw that some pages that were deleted again came up. moreover, the server is in such a location that cvs update is neversuccessful. In my computer, cvs update updates the code within 20 or 30 times, but in that server, it has never updated. I made a script to keep updating it till it succedded and it updated only once in 24 hours. This definately caused problems to the host, and they temporarily suspended my account. So I see no way out of this except change my hosting provider. Does anybody know a good hosting provider that suites my needs? vedant