In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the block log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete records are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that many of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not be removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where only 5 of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
I think deleting those block records is acceptable, and if they need to be blocked again, we can just block them again. Instituting blocks like this seems like an anti-pattern we should avoid.
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the block log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete records are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that many of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not be removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where only 5 of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
I suggest perhaps having this go out on tech news or make sure the proper admins are notified.
-- Zppix Volunteer Wikimedia Developer Africa Wikimedia Developers Member and Mentor enwp.org/User:Zppix **Note: I do not work for Wikimedia Foundation, or any of its chapters.**
On Mar 21, 2018, at 1:52 PM, James Hare jamesmhare@gmail.com wrote:
I think deleting those block records is acceptable, and if they need to be blocked again, we can just block them again. Instituting blocks like this seems like an anti-pattern we should avoid.
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the block log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete records are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that many of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not be removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where only 5 of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
If you give me a list of stuffs blocked in this legacy manner I'll convert them to regular global blocks to be handled by the usual community means.
Vito
2018-03-21 19:52 GMT+01:00 James Hare jamesmhare@gmail.com:
I think deleting those block records is acceptable, and if they need to be blocked again, we can just block them again. Instituting blocks like this seems like an anti-pattern we should avoid.
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the block log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete records are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that many of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not be removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where only 5 of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Should we check if any of the IPs are still used as proxies before mass blocking them?
________________________________ From: Wikitech-l wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:39:29 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Unblocking 79 IPs blocked as open proxies 12 years ago (T189840)
If you give me a list of stuffs blocked in this legacy manner I'll convert them to regular global blocks to be handled by the usual community means.
Vito
2018-03-21 19:52 GMT+01:00 James Hare jamesmhare@gmail.com:
I think deleting those block records is acceptable, and if they need to be blocked again, we can just block them again. Instituting blocks like this seems like an anti-pattern we should avoid.
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the block log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete records are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that many of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not be removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where only 5 of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Indeed, but I'd convert them to ordinary blocks as first step, so I'll have more time for checking.
Vito
2018-03-22 7:49 GMT+01:00 Dora Winterstorm setupmaster@outlook.com:
Should we check if any of the IPs are still used as proxies before mass blocking them?
From: Wikitech-l wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:39:29 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Unblocking 79 IPs blocked as open proxies 12 years ago (T189840)
If you give me a list of stuffs blocked in this legacy manner I'll convert them to regular global blocks to be handled by the usual community means.
Vito
2018-03-21 19:52 GMT+01:00 James Hare jamesmhare@gmail.com:
I think deleting those block records is acceptable, and if they need to
be
blocked again, we can just block them again. Instituting blocks like this seems like an anti-pattern we should avoid.
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the block log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete
records
are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that
many
of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not be removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where
only 5
of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Vito, the list is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 as stated in the original mail, isn't it?
Martin
čt 22. 3. 2018 v 8:13 odesílatel Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com napsal:
Indeed, but I'd convert them to ordinary blocks as first step, so I'll have more time for checking.
Vito
2018-03-22 7:49 GMT+01:00 Dora Winterstorm setupmaster@outlook.com:
Should we check if any of the IPs are still used as proxies before mass blocking them?
From: Wikitech-l wikitech-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of
Vi
to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:39:29 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Unblocking 79 IPs blocked as open proxies 12 years ago (T189840)
If you give me a list of stuffs blocked in this legacy manner I'll
convert
them to regular global blocks to be handled by the usual community means.
Vito
2018-03-21 19:52 GMT+01:00 James Hare jamesmhare@gmail.com:
I think deleting those block records is acceptable, and if they need to
be
blocked again, we can just block them again. Instituting blocks like
this
seems like an anti-pattern we should avoid.
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the
block
log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete
records
are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely that
many
of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not
be
removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where
only 5
of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there with complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in case anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Hello,
Thanks for looking into these issues. I would like to suggest that good forums for this discussion prior to removing blocked IPs, and good places to notify Wikimedians who are likely to be interested in these subjects, would be the Stewards' Noticeboard on Meta at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard, and the ENWP Administrators' Noticeboard at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard. I would like to suggest that further discussion take place at those locations and/or the Phabricator ticket.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as being automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the
block
log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete
records
are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in various places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely
that
many
of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will not
be
removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki, where
only 5
of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there
with
complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are not currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in
case
anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation
Sorry for being late. I've just globally blocked these IPs, now we can start the examination of their current status.
Vito
2018-03-24 0:26 GMT+01:00 Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com:
Hello,
Thanks for looking into these issues. I would like to suggest that good forums for this discussion prior to removing blocked IPs, and good places to notify Wikimedians who are likely to be interested in these subjects, would be the Stewards' Noticeboard on Meta at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard, and the ENWP Administrators' Noticeboard at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard. I would like to suggest that further discussion take place at those locations and/or the Phabricator ticket.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On March 21, 2018 at 11:50:50 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) ( bjorsch@wikimedia.org) wrote:
In 2005–2006 a sysadmin blocked 79 IP addresses on all wikis as
being
automatically-detected open proxies, without recording them in the
block
log or attributing the block to any user account. These incomplete
records
are now causing errors when MediaWiki tries to access them in
various
places, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189840.
Since these are all over 12 years old, it seems reasonably likely
that
many
of these are no longer open proxies. Rather than trying to fix the incomplete records, I'm just going to remove them.
Any existing blocks of these IPs that are not causing errors will
not
be
removed. At first glance this seems relevant mainly to enwiki,
where
only 5
of the IPs have incomplete records. 21 are currently blocked there
with
complete records (19 since 2005 or earlier), and the other 53 are
not
currently blocked there.
The list of IPs is at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P6876 in
case
anyone wants to review them for potential reblocking.
-- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation
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