Hi,
I just moved the German Artikel about Alexander Dubcek from "Alexander Dubcek" to "Alexander Dubcek". Since then the page title is broken. The URL-Address is OK and says "Dubcek", but the title itself says "DubÄ[]ek" ([] is a non displayable char). Is this an error in the database? Or is it a browser related problem? Seems to look like this with all common browsers (see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Alexander_Dubcek). Regards
Thomas aka Urbanus
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Thomas Luft wrote:
I just moved the German Artikel about Alexander Dubcek from "Alexander Dubcek" to "Alexander Dubcek". Since then the page title is broken. The URL-Address is OK and says "Dubcek", but the title itself says "DubÄ[]ek" ([] is a non displayable char). Is this an error in the database? Or is it a browser related problem?
That letter, Latin lowercase c with caron, does not exist in the ISO 8859-1 character set which is used on the western-european-language portions of Wikipedia. Naturally, this causes trouble when you try to use it. ;)
I've moved the page back to the plain-old-c version.
Until the German and other western-european-language wikis are upgraded to utf-8, alas you'll have to avoid using such characters in titles. (This is largely dependent on how big the contingent of people who have browsers that damage UTF-8-encoded pages when they edit them is, and whether it's easier to find a workaround for broken browsers or to force them to upgrade.)
See http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#ISO-8859-1 for a handy chart of ok characters.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 04:45:23AM -0700, Brion Vibber wrote:
Thomas Luft wrote:
I just moved the German Artikel about Alexander Dubcek from "Alexander Dubcek" to "Alexander Dubcek". Since then the page title is broken. The URL-Address is OK and says "Dubcek", but the title itself says "DubÄ[]ek" ([] is a non displayable char). Is this an error in the database? Or is it a browser related problem?
That letter, Latin lowercase c with caron, does not exist in the ISO 8859-1 character set which is used on the western-european-language portions of Wikipedia. Naturally, this causes trouble when you try to use it. ;)
I've moved the page back to the plain-old-c version.
Until the German and other western-european-language wikis are upgraded to utf-8, alas you'll have to avoid using such characters in titles. (This is largely dependent on how big the contingent of people who have browsers that damage UTF-8-encoded pages when they edit them is, and whether it's easier to find a workaround for broken browsers or to force them to upgrade.)
See http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#ISO-8859-1 for a handy chart of ok characters.
Seriously, we should do the upgrade and force everyone with broken browsers to upgrade. There are very few non-UTF8-compatible ones left. It works perfectly on Polish wiki, so why should it be any different on others ?
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
Seriously, we should do the upgrade and force everyone with broken browsers to upgrade. There are very few non-UTF8-compatible ones left. It works perfectly on Polish wiki, so why should it be any different on others ?
I blame Anthere mostly. Now that she's using Netscape 7 instead of some dreadful old pre-Unicode version of Opera, we're good to go. ;)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 05:10:18AM -0700, Brion Vibber wrote:
Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
Seriously, we should do the upgrade and force everyone with broken browsers to upgrade. There are very few non-UTF8-compatible ones left. It works perfectly on Polish wiki, so why should it be any different on others ?
I blame Anthere mostly. Now that she's using Netscape 7 instead of some dreadful old pre-Unicode version of Opera, we're good to go. ;)
So let's go 'n do it !
Brion Vibber wrote:
I blame Anthere mostly. Now that she's using Netscape 7 instead of some dreadful old pre-Unicode version of Opera, we're good to go. ;)
Anthere is no problem e.g. in de.wiki ;)
You did want to read such a commnet, did you? ;)
--- Thomas Corell T.Corell@t-online.de wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
I blame Anthere mostly. Now that she's using
Netscape 7 instead of some
dreadful old pre-Unicode version of Opera, we're
good to go. ;)
Anthere is no problem e.g. in de.wiki ;)
You did want to read such a commnet, did you? ;)
Smurf
yep, except for the dozens of international links I could made since non utf
in majority anonymously.
though I have an account.
If another user on mac 9 meets the pb, recommand Netscape 7.
btw, I manage decently to read german :-) only (counting on my fingers...) 5 years of german at school.
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