I personally think these threads are fine (within reason) if they are
thankful about technical things and/or stuff connected to mediawiki.
Generic things about the wikimedia movement should stay on wikimedia-l; we
have multiple mailing lists with different scopes for a reason. In that
light, I consider the majority of your posts on this topic to be offtopic.
I would prefer that subject lines stay english. People use subject lines to
sort their mail into whats interesting to them. Random language subjects
interfere with that.
On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think that whether these threads are welcome by Wikitech-l subscribers in
general is a reasonable question, although I disagree with a number of
elements of your description of these threads. I took a somewhat bold step
in February 2018 of expanding the posting of these threads from Wikimedia-l
to both Wikimedia-l and Wikitech-l, and I expressed a willingness to listen
to objections; see
At that time, no one objected.
Of the occasional feedback that I have received in public (more on
Wikimedia-l than Wikitech-l) and private, 100% has been positive until now.
However, I recognize that people's opinions may change over time. If a
consensus emerges from Wikitech-l subscribers that these threads are not
currently welcome on Wikitech-l then I will respect that and I will stop
cross-posting the threads to Wikitech-l. However, if no such consensus
emerges, then I suggest that you ignore these threads in the future.
The purpose of these emails is certainly not to annoy people, and I regret
if people find them to be more annoying than interesting, useful, or
I hope that people will contribute their own posts to these threads in
response to the prompt, "What’s making you happy this week? You are welcome
to comment in any language." Also, I would be happy to see a new person
start these threads each week, and to see multiple people contribute their
thoughts each week. However, if a new consensus emerges in against having
these threads on Wikitech-l, then I will abide by that consensus.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:45 AM Andre Klapper <aklapper(a)wikimedia.org>
On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 07:17 +0000, Pine W wrote:
While browsing Japanese Wikipedia, I found this
As "What's making you happy this week" messages seem to contain no
questions, no expected interaction or followup on specific technical
topics, no announcements about specific technical topics, and often no
connection to the technical scope of wikitech-l@ (in the previous
message, 1 out of 4 items covered a technical aspect), but seem to be a
random link list of collected personal interest items:
Has it been considered to post such messages to a personal blog (or
such) instead, which might be a more suitable venue?
Andre Klapper | Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate
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