On Sep 19, 2017 9:45 PM, "Tim Starling" tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:

Facebook have been inconsistent with HHVM, and have made it clear that they don't intend to cater to our needs.

I'm curious: is this conclusion based on your recent meeting with them, or on past behavior? Their recent announcement had a lot of "we know we haven't been great, but we promise to change" stuff in it ("reinvest in open source") and I'm curious to know if they enumerated concrete steps they planned to take, or whether even in your most recent meeting with them they failed to show actual interest. --scott