Hi, Hate to be the one asking that annoying question (and I don't have IRC access here) but just wondering whether I'm the only one seeing odd Wikipedia behaviour today/yesterday. The most common symptom is page timeout, but have also seen pages locked for editing (temporarily), and fr.wikipedia.org even delivered me a page in print mode when it wasn't requested.
I'm getting page timeouts about 50% of the time, fwiw.
Steve
indeed, many timeouts
g.
On 5/11/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Hate to be the one asking that annoying question (and I don't have IRC access here) but just wondering whether I'm the only one seeing odd Wikipedia behaviour today/yesterday. The most common symptom is page timeout, but have also seen pages locked for editing (temporarily), and fr.wikipedia.org even delivered me a page in print mode when it wasn't requested.
I'm getting page timeouts about 50% of the time, fwiw.
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Hate to be the one asking that annoying question (and I don't have IRC access here) but just wondering whether I'm the only one seeing odd Wikipedia behaviour today/yesterday. The most common symptom is page timeout, but have also seen pages locked for editing (temporarily), and fr.wikipedia.org even delivered me a page in print mode when it wasn't requested.
On second thoughts I don't think it's printable mode, it looks like some lower-cost fallback mode where the skin isn't used. All the MediaWiki interface is missing, and the images are laid out in a simpler way (text then image then text...).
Steve
On second thoughts I don't think it's printable mode, it looks like some lower-cost fallback mode where the skin isn't used. All the MediaWiki interface is missing, and the images are laid out in a simpler way (text then image then text...).
Or just failed to load .css file from squid - styling is done separately from documents with content.
Domas
On 5/11/06, Domas Mituzas midom.lists@gmail.com wrote:
On second thoughts I don't think it's printable mode, it looks like some lower-cost fallback mode where the skin isn't used. All the MediaWiki interface is missing, and the images are laid out in a simpler way (text then image then text...).
Or just failed to load .css file from squid - styling is done separately from documents with content.
Ah, sounds about right.
Steve
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 12:43:04PM +0300, Domas Mituzas wrote:
On second thoughts I don't think it's printable mode, it looks like some lower-cost fallback mode where the skin isn't used. All the MediaWiki interface is missing, and the images are laid out in a simpler way (text then image then text...).
Or just failed to load .css file from squid - styling is done separately from documents with content.
I was going to offer the same possible explanation. It sounds more like lacking CSS than anything else from the description.
On 5/11/06, Chad Perrin perrin@apotheon.com wrote:
Or just failed to load .css file from squid - styling is done separately from documents with content.
I was going to offer the same possible explanation. It sounds more like lacking CSS than anything else from the description.
I hadn't realised that CSS could add elements like the toolbars on the top and side, but there you go.
Steve
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:09:36PM +0200, Steve Bennett wrote:
On 5/11/06, Chad Perrin perrin@apotheon.com wrote:
Or just failed to load .css file from squid - styling is done separately from documents with content.
I was going to offer the same possible explanation. It sounds more like lacking CSS than anything else from the description.
I hadn't realised that CSS could add elements like the toolbars on the top and side, but there you go.
CSS is meant as a replacement for basically all presentation stuff in web markup. As such, it handles stuff like font formatting, layout stuff previously handled by tables, positioning, and so on. With a tweaked CSS file, you could make Wikipedia pages entirely unrecognizable.
See this: http://meta.enterwiki.net/ Just an example of the power of CSS (-:
On May 11, 2006, at 3:12 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:09:36PM +0200, Steve Bennett wrote:
On 5/11/06, Chad Perrin perrin@apotheon.com wrote:
Or just failed to load .css file from squid - styling is done separately from documents with content.
I was going to offer the same possible explanation. It sounds more like lacking CSS than anything else from the description.
I hadn't realised that CSS could add elements like the toolbars on the top and side, but there you go.
CSS is meant as a replacement for basically all presentation stuff in web markup. As such, it handles stuff like font formatting, layout stuff previously handled by tables, positioning, and so on. With a tweaked CSS file, you could make Wikipedia pages entirely unrecognizable.
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On 5/11/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
Hate to be the one asking that annoying question (and I don't have IRC access here) but just wondering whether I'm the only one seeing odd Wikipedia behaviour today/yesterday. The most common symptom is page timeout, but have also seen pages locked for editing (temporarily), and fr.wikipedia.org even delivered me a page in print mode when it wasn't requested.
To reduce our bandwidth costs in Tampa we've had to move image file traffic for European visitors to the Amsterdam proxy squids. At the moment they're overloaded, we're still working out how to rebalance things there.
Everything works great here in America. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On 5/11/06, Brion Vibber brion.vibber@gmail.com wrote:
To reduce our bandwidth costs in Tampa we've had to move image file traffic for European visitors to the Amsterdam proxy squids. At the moment they're overloaded, we're still working out how to rebalance things there.
Everything works great here in America. :)
Pleased to hear it :) Oh yeah, I did forget to mention that images were not loading properly yesterday and maybe the day before - they were frequently replaced by text. Today the images seem to be fine, but often the page as a whole simply doesn't load.
Good luck with it!
Steve
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