Somebody recently posted on the English Wikipedia's "Help Desk" with what at first sight appeared to be a technical problem with skins: they could not see "the most modern 'standard'" while logged in. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Display_irk ]
I think, however, that they are just being confused by a rather unhelpful choice of name - if you select "Standard" as your skin, you get not the current default (which is called "MonoBook"), but the previous one. It's now become a name for something that was previously essentially nameless.
As I went on to say in my response, it's probably not a very good idea having something called "standard" that's not standard any more - perhaps we should try and come up with a "proper" name for it. "Classic" would be a possibility, but not a very good one, since we already have a "nostalgia"; "phase3" would be a bit dull (and meaningless for most users)...
So here's my challenge to you all (developers and users alike, I hope I don't annoy too many people by cross-posting this): come up with a name, in retrospect, for the skin which didn't need a name until MediaWiki 1.3, because it was just "standard".
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 11:33:07AM +0100, Rowan Collins wrote:
So here's my challenge to you all (developers and users alike, I hope I don't annoy too many people by cross-posting this): come up with a name, in retrospect, for the skin which didn't need a name until MediaWiki 1.3, because it was just "standard".
How about "Simple".
Arvind
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:33:07 +0100, Rowan Collins wrote:
So here's my challenge to you all ..... come up with a name, in retrospect, for the skin which didn't need a name until MediaWiki 1.3, because it was just "standard".
Name it for the colour: "Straw".
"Classic" is OK (not great but OK), "Traditional" is not bad either.
On Monday 28 June 2004 01:55, Tony wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:33:07 +0100, Rowan Collins wrote:
So here's my challenge to you all ..... come up with a name, in retrospect, for the skin which didn't need a name until MediaWiki 1.3, because it was just "standard".
Name it for the colour: "Straw".
"Classic" is OK (not great but OK), "Traditional" is not bad either.
I agree with "Classic".
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:33:07 +0100, Rowan Collins wrote:
So here's my challenge to you all ..... come up with a name, in retrospect, for the skin which didn't need a name until MediaWiki 1.3, because it was just "standard".
I had intended to rename it "Classic" back in April, but apparently forgot to update the English localization. (I did change at least Esperanto, haven't checked the others.)
Change is now made for en; other languages with custom skin names should update as necessary.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
I had intended to rename it "Classic" back in April, but apparently forgot to update the English localization. (I did change at least Esperanto, haven't checked the others.)
Bah, I still think it would be nicer to give it a 'proper' name - suggestions of "Gold", "Straw", "Ochre" all sound more interesting to me. And having "Nostalgia" and "Classic" does seem a bit silly...
Change is now made for en; other languages with custom skin names should update as necessary.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Rowan Collins wrote:
I had intended to rename it "Classic" back in April, but apparently forgot to update the English localization. (I did change at least Esperanto, haven't checked the others.)
Bah, I still think it would be nicer to give it a 'proper' name - suggestions of "Gold", "Straw", "Ochre" all sound more interesting to me. And having "Nostalgia" and "Classic" does seem a bit silly...
Well if you guys want to spend a month hashing out a name (which will invariably involve a vote on meta and a dispute over the voting rules), feel free. I've just made the original intended change.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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