Alright, it's been a few days and I've decided to go ahead and name the machine 'geoffrin' for Marie Thérèse Rodet Geoffrin, an 18th century Parisian hostess important in the literary scene of the Encyclopedists, so I could stop calling it "the new machine" all the time. 'geoffrin' has advantages over other suggested names in that no one has to argue over whether 'de' has to be included and it can't be interpreted by Finns as referring to a lisping drunken pedophile. ;) Mme Geoffrin is said to have "acted as mother and mentor to her guests", and the main database server is indeed the protecting mother to our data! Once DNS changes go through it should be available as geoffrin.wikimedia.org. Jason, could you update wikipedia.org to also include an alias in that domain? (Also, would it be possible to add mormo.org as a backup MX record for wikipedia.org? Right now if pliny goes down mailing list messages will only go to the backup server if they're sent using wikiMedia.org addresses.) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)