Have also a look on http://www.giswiki.de/index.php/QuickWMS-Extension. It's an extension for mediawiki that integrates web map services
Heinz
"Lars Aronsson" lars-ABUHZ1rI0YgwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Pine.LNX.4.61.0508310333360.26356@sara.aronsson.se...
The company Demis in the Netherlands sells software for a map server and also runs a demo on their own site. The map data for this demo have been collected from public domain sources, and the company doesn't claim any copyright for the generated maps. The maps are not the very best, but good enough for many purposes. Some maps of this origin are already at Wikimedia Commons, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Map-Hrusica-in-contex--raw.png and have been used for further processing, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationArno.PNG
I developed a simple tool that makes it easier to find the right map, and then I uploaded two dozens of them to
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_domain_maps_from_demis.nl
However, the people at Demis are concerned about a "Slashdot effect" that might overburden their map server if everybody starts to use this tool. They would prefer if somebody could buy the Demis software and run their own server. Unfortunately, the map server only runs on Microsoft Windows.
Does anybody have a Demis server running already, that I can use for my tool? There are many WMS-compliant servers out there, but most have very fuzzy or complicated copyright restrictions.
-- Lars Aronsson (lars-ABUHZ1rI0YgwFerOooGFRg@public.gmane.org) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
Heinz-Josef Lücking wrote:
Have also a look on http://www.giswiki.de/index.php/QuickWMS-Extension. It's an extension for mediawiki that integrates web map services
That sounds good, but who runs the WMS server and who owns the data? Can the sources handle (1) Wikimedia's strict freedom requirement and (2) the Slashdot effect on their servers?
There are many such ideas in the [[category:Wikimaps]] on meta. But we have to make a difference between futuristic ideas and things that work here and now. For example, today I inserted maps in the Russian Wikipedia's article on lake Onega and in the Danish Wikipedia's article on island Lolland. These languages have 30,000 articles each, and still they don't have maps for some of the most central parts of their own countries. I look forward to your SVG/JAVAX/WMS real time updated maps in 2007, with names in the right language fetched from Ultimate Wiktionary. But right now this project needs some simple free maps to fill in the most embarrasing blanks. Within one year, Danish and Russian should have 100,000 articles (assuming an annual growth factor of 3). Many of these will be written by volunteers who get inspiration from the beautiful maps.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B6%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B... http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolland
These maps are green-and-blue without names. This is when you download the PNG image from Commons and start GIMP to add names and features in your favorite language.
"Lars Aronsson" lars@aronsson.se schrieb im
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Heinz-Josef Lücking wrote: Have also a look on http://www.giswiki.de/index.php/QuickWMS-Extension. It's an extension for mediawiki that integrates web map services
That sounds good, but who runs the WMS server and who owns the data? Can the sources handle (1) Wikimedia's strict freedom requirement and (2) the Slashdot effect on their servers?
There must be a seperation between WMS servers and geodata The Demis-maps e.g. are as free as the underlying geodata. The demis-WMS server on the other side is not free software. But the data could also be provided by a free WMS-Server. e.g. UMN-Mapserver That server should be run, where the Wikipedias are running
But the biggest problem are neither free WMS-Servers or free geodata. The problem is to get people doing the job
There are many such ideas in the [[category:Wikimaps]] on meta. But we have to make a difference between futuristic ideas and things that work here and now. For example, today I inserted maps in the Russian Wikipedia's article on lake Onega and in the Danish Wikipedia's article on island Lolland. These languages have 30,000 articles each, and still they don't have maps for some of the most central parts of their own countries. I look forward to your SVG/JAVAX/WMS real time updated maps in 2007, with names in the right language fetched from Ultimate Wiktionary. But right now this project needs some simple free maps to fill in the most embarrasing blanks. Within one year, Danish and Russian should have 100,000 articles (assuming an annual growth factor of 3). Many of these will be written by volunteers who get inspiration from the beautiful maps.
Internationalisatzion of names can easy be done by creating map-texts (in their own language) from a database. This allready a work in progress. * http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/extensions/gis/ * http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gis * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Georeferenzierung * http://kvaleberg.com/extensions/mapsources/
The beautyful maps allready existing in the wikipedias show on one side a lot of work by the editors. On the other side maps have often to be created again and again. Another problem is the reduction of information of a map and that these maps can't easly be changed by other editors cause they are raster maps.
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http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B6%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B...
These maps are green-and-blue without names. This is when you download the PNG image from Commons and start GIMP to add names and features in your favorite language.
-- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
Heinz ( http://www.giswiki.de )
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