Following the links to wap.wikipedia.org on last wikizine, i have found some untranslated messages / translation errors. Where should this be reported? / Where are messages located?
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Platonides wrote:
Following the links to wap.wikipedia.org on last wikizine, i have found some untranslated messages / translation errors. Where should this be reported? / Where are messages located?
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
It's: * http://de.wap.wikipedia.org * http://en.wap.wikipedia.org * http://es.wap.wikipedia.org
-- Ivan Lanin
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Ivan Lanin wrote:
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber wrote:
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
It's:
Ah, these. :)
The de and en are very much experimental, and there's a pretty good chance we'll rip out the whole thing and start over at some point.
But do go ahead and mention specifics if you see something awry. I'll add a Bugzilla component for it...
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
But do go ahead and mention specifics if you see something awry.
Like this? :-) http://de.wap.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=Felsberg+%28Hessen%29&seg=2
Magnus
Magnus Manske wrote:
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
But do go ahead and mention specifics if you see something awry.
Like this? :-) http://de.wap.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=Felsberg+%28Hessen%29&seg=2
"Error: Invalid wiki syntax"
Perfectly normal and to be expected. The codebase has about as many bugs as lines of code. It's the working articles that should surprise you.
-- Tim Starling
On 6/1/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
But do go ahead and mention specifics if you see something awry.
Like this? :-) http://de.wap.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=Felsberg+%28Hessen%29&seg=2
"Error: Invalid wiki syntax"
Perfectly normal and to be expected. The codebase has about as many bugs as lines of code. It's the working articles that should surprise you.
Oh, you're writing a new parser for that? In that case, why not use my wiki2xml stuff for the next generation? It was working OK last time I checked (some month ago...) and usually breaks gracefully (dumping raw wikitext in worsed case). It also comes, among other generators, with plain-text output, which can be adapted to the output format of your choice. Finally, it was surprisingly fast (the online demo sucks, though, because it takes forever to get article and template texts on the toolserver).
Magnus
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Magnus Manske wrote:
On 6/1/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
But do go ahead and mention specifics if you see something awry.
Like this? :-) http://de.wap.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=Felsberg+%28Hessen%29&seg=2
"Error: Invalid wiki syntax"
Perfectly normal and to be expected. The codebase has about as many bugs as lines of code. It's the working articles that should surprise you.
Oh, you're writing a new parser for that?
No, it's preexisting software which we will likely not continue to use in the long run.
- -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org)
Magnus Manske wrote:
On 6/1/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Magnus Manske wrote:
On 5/31/07, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
But do go ahead and mention specifics if you see something awry.
Like this? :-) http://de.wap.wikipedia.org/transcode.php?go=Felsberg+%28Hessen%29&seg=2
"Error: Invalid wiki syntax"
Perfectly normal and to be expected. The codebase has about as many bugs as lines of code. It's the working articles that should surprise you.
Oh, you're writing a new parser for that? In that case, why not use my wiki2xml stuff for the next generation? It was working OK last time I checked (some month ago...) and usually breaks gracefully (dumping raw wikitext in worsed case). It also comes, among other generators, with plain-text output, which can be adapted to the output format of your choice. Finally, it was surprisingly fast (the online demo sucks, though, because it takes forever to get article and template texts on the toolserver).
Writing a new parser is the wrong way to do it. Taking a TikiWiki parser and hacking it until it partially works in MediaWiki is even worse. It's rubbish code that has been dumped on me. I intend to get it working with plain text and most images, but no tables or templates. Then we can think about rewriting it. Maybe some sort of XSLT/PHP combination on the XHTML output is the way to go, or maybe subclassing the mainline parser would be better. But not an independent wikitext parser.
-- Tim Starling
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
It's:
May be worth having a very quick placeholder page at http://wap.wikipedia.org/ that just says "Try one of these sites" + the 3 links. (Kind of like what http://www.wikipedia.org/ has, except it doesn't have to look any good at all - in fact, anyone using a mobile device would probably much prefer it to be exceedingly minimal).
-- All the best, Nick.
Hoi, There is a language called Wapishana that has the code wap. Because of our use of ISO-codes to indicate languages the wap code is not available for this purpose. Thanks, GerardM
On 6/1/07, Nick Jenkins nickpj@gmail.com wrote:
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
It's:
May be worth having a very quick placeholder page at http://wap.wikipedia.org/ that just says "Try one of these sites" + the 3 links. (Kind of like what http://www.wikipedia.org/ has, except it doesn't have to look any good at all - in fact, anyone using a mobile device would probably much prefer it to be exceedingly minimal).
-- All the best, Nick.
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10500 speakers. I doubt they will request a Wikipedia anytime soon.
On 6/1/07, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, There is a language called Wapishana that has the code wap. Because of our use of ISO-codes to indicate languages the wap code is not available for this purpose. Thanks, GerardM
On 6/1/07, Nick Jenkins nickpj@gmail.com wrote:
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
It's:
May be worth having a very quick placeholder page at http://wap.wikipedia.org/ that just says "Try one of these sites" + the 3 links. (Kind of like what http://www.wikipedia.org/ has, except it doesn't have to look any good at all - in fact, anyone using a mobile device would probably much prefer it to be exceedingly minimal).
-- All the best, Nick.
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Hoi, The number of speakers is very much beside the point. The point is that we have a way of using two and three character codes that represent languages. Any two or three character codes will be confused as a consequence.
When you are talking about branding, you mention that some consistency is of important. This same logic applies here. It would be more sane to call it WikiWap
Thanks, GerardM
On 6/1/07, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
10500 speakers. I doubt they will request a Wikipedia anytime soon.
On 6/1/07, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, There is a language called Wapishana that has the code wap. Because of
our
use of ISO-codes to indicate languages the wap code is not available for this purpose. Thanks, GerardM
On 6/1/07, Nick Jenkins nickpj@gmail.com wrote:
There is no wap.wikipedia.org.
It's:
May be worth having a very quick placeholder page at http://wap.wikipedia.org/ that just says "Try one of these sites" +
the 3
links. (Kind of like what http://www.wikipedia.org/ has, except it
doesn't
have to look any good at all - in fact, anyone using a mobile device
would
probably much prefer it to be exceedingly minimal).
-- All the best, Nick.
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On 6/1/07, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The number of speakers is very much beside the point. The point is that we have a way of using two and three character codes that represent languages. Any two or three character codes will be confused as a consequence.
Why?
http://de.wikipedia.org http://de.wap.wikipedia.org
and
http://wap.wikipedia.org http://wap.wap.wikipedia.org
Maybe I've been permanently damaged from writing too much code, but it seems perfectly OK to me, as long as we don't create http://wap.wikipedia.org as a "central wap site" instead of the Wapishana wikipedia.
As other projects would probably want their own wap sites, the "central wap site" should probably be at http://wap.wikiMedia.org anyway.
Magnus
Hoi, Magnus I totally agree, indeed wap.wikiMedia.org is perfectly fine. Thanks, GerardM
On 6/1/07, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
On 6/1/07, GerardM gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The number of speakers is very much beside the point. The point is that
we
have a way of using two and three character codes that represent
languages.
Any two or three character codes will be confused as a consequence.
Why?
http://de.wikipedia.org http://de.wap.wikipedia.org
and
http://wap.wikipedia.org http://wap.wap.wikipedia.org
Maybe I've been permanently damaged from writing too much code, but it seems perfectly OK to me, as long as we don't create http://wap.wikipedia.org as a "central wap site" instead of the Wapishana wikipedia.
As other projects would probably want their own wap sites, the "central wap site" should probably be at http://wap.wikiMedia.org anyway.
Magnus
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