A new round of Outreachy is about to start and we need mentors for projects.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_11
Mentors go first, because we haven't many confirmed for this round, and we have already many possible project ideas:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
Still, if you want to volunteer as mentor for a new project, the gates are also wide open for you.
There are already several candidates looking for a project and asking for microtasks to show their skills.
Questions? Just ask, here or at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112620
Hi Quim,
For projects that don't move forward in Outreachy for any reason, is there a way of suggesting that the particularly useful open projects get WMF dev time next quarter? It would be nice if there is a way to incorporate community priorities into quarterly department goal setting.
Pine On Sep 28, 2015 4:18 AM, "Quim Gil" qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
A new round of Outreachy is about to start and we need mentors for projects.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_11
Mentors go first, because we haven't many confirmed for this round, and we have already many possible project ideas:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
Still, if you want to volunteer as mentor for a new project, the gates are also wide open for you.
There are already several candidates looking for a project and asking for microtasks to show their skills.
Questions? Just ask, here or at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112620
-- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
WMF is made up of individuals. If there's something that you think should be done, why not figure out which team it would normally fall under, and politely suggest it to the people on the team that they should make it a priority (If it doesn't fall under any team - lets be realistic, it probably won't be done)
They're either going to say yes or they're going to say no. The better reasoned your argument for why its important, the more likely they are going to say yes.
That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community priorities all that much (imo).
-- -bawolff
On 9/28/15, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Quim,
For projects that don't move forward in Outreachy for any reason, is there a way of suggesting that the particularly useful open projects get WMF dev time next quarter? It would be nice if there is a way to incorporate community priorities into quarterly department goal setting.
Pine On Sep 28, 2015 4:18 AM, "Quim Gil" qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
A new round of Outreachy is about to start and we need mentors for projects.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_11
Mentors go first, because we haven't many confirmed for this round, and we have already many possible project ideas:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
Still, if you want to volunteer as mentor for a new project, the gates are also wide open for you.
There are already several candidates looking for a project and asking for microtasks to show their skills.
Questions? Just ask, here or at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112620
-- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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Hi Brian, I was told by a WMF non-management employee that they have little discretion about which projects they're working on, and that the decisions about priorities come top-down. Hence my interest in engaging with the quarterly planning processes and the people managing those processes to see if there's a way to get community input into the teams' quarterly goals.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
WMF is made up of individuals. If there's something that you think should be done, why not figure out which team it would normally fall under, and politely suggest it to the people on the team that they should make it a priority (If it doesn't fall under any team - lets be realistic, it probably won't be done)
They're either going to say yes or they're going to say no. The better reasoned your argument for why its important, the more likely they are going to say yes.
That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community priorities all that much (imo).
-- -bawolff
On 9/28/15, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Quim,
For projects that don't move forward in Outreachy for any reason, is
there
a way of suggesting that the particularly useful open projects get WMF
dev
time next quarter? It would be nice if there is a way to incorporate community priorities into quarterly department goal setting.
Pine On Sep 28, 2015 4:18 AM, "Quim Gil" qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
A new round of Outreachy is about to start and we need mentors for projects.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_11
Mentors go first, because we haven't many confirmed for this round, and
we
have already many possible project ideas:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/possible-tech-projects/
Still, if you want to volunteer as mentor for a new project, the gates
are
also wide open for you.
There are already several candidates looking for a project and asking
for
microtasks to show their skills.
Questions? Just ask, here or at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112620
-- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 12:09 -0700, Pine W wrote:
Hi Brian, I was told by a WMF non-management employee that they have little discretion about which projects they're working on, and that the decisions about priorities come top-down. Hence my interest in engaging with the quarterly planning processes and the people managing those processes to see if there's a way to get community input into the teams' quarterly goals.
WMF is made up of several teams. For a list, click "Organizational overview" on https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff?showall=1 Some members of some teams might either be or have the feeling of being more influenced by potential top-down priorities. Others less.
About engaging with the planning processes and people:
For Engineering, the main goals and contacts for Oct-Dec are here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q2_Goals
That page links to each team's homepages (they are also linked from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering ) which should cover the planning processes, communication/contact info, etc.
Hope that helps a bit?
Cheers, andre
On 2015-09-28 21:09, Pine W wrote:
I was told by a WMF non-management employee that they have little discretion about which projects they're working on, and that the decisions about priorities come top-down. Hence my interest in engaging with the quarterly planning processes and the people managing those processes to see if there's a way to get community input into the teams' quarterly goals.
Once the quarterly "goals" are decided, there is a lot of push to actually meet the deadlines that were set and actually work on what the team committed to working on, but non-management people should be able to be heard during planning, at least.
(This is assuming you want something big done, not a weekend project.)
The current quarter is just ending today… so now is probably a good time to run around and poke people. :)
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community priorities all that much (imo).
Do you have any thoughts on why that might be? As I'm on the Community Tech team, I'd love to mentor someone working on a community-centric project.
A potential issue I see there is scope and identifying requirements. It's very easy for onlookers to continue making suggestions and saying that this and that needs to be tweaked, even as the project goes on, and dealing with that process can take a lot of time. In a 10-week internship, it's more of a problem if consensus suddenly shifts around week 8 and suddenly the thing they've been working on is no longer wanted in its current form.
Thoughts?
-Frances
On 9/28/15, Frances Hocutt fhocutt@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community priorities all that much (imo).
Do you have any thoughts on why that might be? As I'm on the Community Tech team, I'd love to mentor someone working on a community-centric project.
A potential issue I see there is scope and identifying requirements. It's very easy for onlookers to continue making suggestions and saying that this and that needs to be tweaked, even as the project goes on, and dealing with that process can take a lot of time. In a 10-week internship, it's more of a problem if consensus suddenly shifts around week 8 and suddenly the thing they've been working on is no longer wanted in its current form.
Thoughts?
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I guess because people want things that are self contained and "small" but not too "small", which limits what you can fix.
Don't get me wrong, they are useful projects (Usually, not always). But they usually don't strike me as things that the community would say are super high priority, most of the time. (At least imho).
-- -bawolff
On 28 September 2015 at 12:02, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
WMF is made up of individuals. If there's something that you think should be done, why not figure out which team it would normally fall under, and politely suggest it to the people on the team that they should make it a priority (If it doesn't fall under any team - lets be realistic, it probably won't be done)
This is exactly on point.
If someone wants to reach out about a project and doesn't know who to contact, feel free to contact me and I will try to point you to the right person if such a person exists.
Dan
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