Hi, See you see a fix that could be made for this "user issue" rather than "bug"?
The fix required is: when rendering **history** states of pages, rendering contemporary history state of any {{transclusions}}, rather than latest state, as happens now. This would make a lot of editors happier, and some less concerned about "banning" the use of inter-article transcludes.
See below at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Transclusion..., and other links contained.
Best, Trev M.
== Transclusion History ==
See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Summary_style#Problems_with_part... this discussion]
Sometimes editors involved in disputes want to see an article as it was a while ago, and then look at the changes made. If the article transcludes content from another article, they will see the old version of the article but the current version of the transcluded content, which is confusing. Is there a way in which they could see the old version of the article with the transcluded content as of the date/time that version was created? This could be a big improvement. Thanks, [[User:Aymatth2|Aymatth2]] ([[User talk:Aymatth2|talk]]) 23:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:ItÅås not possible as the software is currently written, though I agree it would be a useful feature. Designing a gadget which re-parses from old template revisions using javascript and the API might be (remotely) feasible (albeit madnessyet IÅåm not above attempting a proof-of-concept if/when I find the time). Å[[User talk:AoV2|AoV©]] 14:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't seem that difficult (easy for me to say). The change would be: "when transcluding content into a historical view of a page, select the most recent version of the source page that was created no later than the date of the target page". That way the historical view would show the page as it really looked at that time, rather than a jumble of past and present. Many editors would be deeply grateful for the improvement! [[User:Aymatth2|Aymatth2]] ([[User talk:Aymatth2|talk]]) 16:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*Posting a summary of this and links at the '''bugzilla.wikimedia.org''' mailing list, see what interest appears from those with their finger on the wiki software pulse. <span style="font-family: 'Brush script MT', cursive;font-size:1.5em;vertical-align:middle;"> [[User:Trev M| Trev M ]] [[User_talk:Trev_M| ~ ]]</span> 19:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Besides template histories, can we add a parameter 'index.php?action=view&time=xxx' to allow users to read as if they read an article at that time, and append this parameter with the same value to all (internal) links in the article? In this way, we can have nostalgia wikis (like http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePage ) at any time.
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Trev wikipedia@wavesculptor.com wrote:
Hi, See you see a fix that could be made for this "user issue" rather than "bug"?
The fix required is: when rendering **history** states of pages, rendering contemporary history state of any {{transclusions}}, rather than latest state, as happens now. This would make a lot of editors happier, and some less concerned about "banning" the use of inter-article transcludes.
See below at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Transclusion..., and other links contained.
Best, Trev M.
== Transclusion History ==
See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Summary_style#Problems_with_part... this discussion]
Sometimes editors involved in disputes want to see an article as it was a while ago, and then look at the changes made. If the article transcludes content from another article, they will see the old version of the article but the current version of the transcluded content, which is confusing. Is there a way in which they could see the old version of the article with the transcluded content as of the date/time that version was created? This could be a big improvement. Thanks, [[User:Aymatth2|Aymatth2]] ([[User talk:Aymatth2|talk]]) 23:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:ItÅås not possible as the software is currently written, though I agree it would be a useful feature. Designing a “gadget” which re-parses from old template revisions using javascript and the API might be (remotely) feasible (albeit madness—yet IÅåm not above attempting a proof-of-concept if/when I find the time). Å[[User talk:AoV2|AoV©˜]] 14:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't seem that difficult (easy for me to say). The change would be: "when transcluding content into a historical view of a page, select the most recent version of the source page that was created no later than the date of the target page". That way the historical view would show the page as it really looked at that time, rather than a jumble of past and present. Many editors would be deeply grateful for the improvement! [[User:Aymatth2|Aymatth2]] ([[User talk:Aymatth2|talk]]) 16:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
*Posting a summary of this and links at the '''bugzilla.wikimedia.org''' mailing list, see what interest appears from those with their finger on the wiki software pulse. <span style="font-family: 'Brush script MT', cursive;font-size:1.5em;vertical-align:middle;"> [[User:Trev M| Trev M ]] [[User_talk:Trev_M| ~ ]]</span> 19:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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