Hi Oliver, Thanks for sharing your disappointment. I do not think you are alone in wanting to see wikigrok continue and grow. I would clarify that the 'success rates' you allude to were for reader engagement and accuracy, not in actually improving our projects by filling in important gaps in wikidata. A great deal of work would be required to build out in order for this project to have a scalable impact on wikidata.
I am not saying that casual contributions are going away, simply that we are going to recognize our resource limitations and evaluate opportunities for them based on highest return-on-investment. We currently have 5 developers working on readership for the entire web (due to some temporary leaves) and there might be smaller wins using casual contributions that work towards our end goal, but don't require the heavy upfront investment. This doesn't mean we don't take on big thorny problems, just that we take a step back and see if there are ways to subdivide them into smaller projects along the way.
Best,
Jon
[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/WikiGrok
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm personally incredibly disappointed; this was the most successful intervention I'd seen anyone try in a long while, if ever, and the results blow me away. My question would be "what interventions with similarly high success rates are going to be worked on instead?" - I assume that we're not working on them because we can achieve the same outcome through easier-to-implement interventions. I would be interested to hear what those interventions are.
On 1 June 2015 at 14:57, Jon Katz jkatz@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
TLDR: Wikigrok proved that readers are interested in and capable of
making
casual, mobile contributions to Wikipedia. We are putting continued development of the 'Wikigrok' casual contribution feature on hold until
we
have a plan for optimally harnessing this interest/capability.
Background Given the growth of mobile traffic on wikipedia and the challenges
inherent
to traditional editing on a mobile device, Wikigrok was proposed as a
way to
test if regular wikipedia readers would be interested in making smaller, more casual contributions to wikimedia projects while reading Wikipedia
on a
mobile device.
Results By early 2015, the results were in: readers were relatively interested in engaging with the feature[1]. Some oft-quoted comparisons include:
3x the number of unique responders as mobile editors during test period (4.5K editors, 12.3K WikiGrokkers), even with WG on sample of articles & users 1.5x better clickthrough than 2014 Fundraising full-screen mobile banner
(I actually do not have references for these, as they are borrowed
quotes)
Furthermore, we found that the quality of responses was rather high
[2,3].
Future The original thought was to use these responses to fill in gaps in
Wikidata
and our initial test results (2 weeks worth) were successfully ported
over
in late April [4]. However, in order to production-ize the system, we
would
have to:
scale and develop queries against the new wikidata query service create an article parser to identify potential multiple choice answers
for
each question create a system for attributing aggregated results to the specific contributors (per Wikidata bot request discussion[5])
None of these are unsurpassable, but we have learned a great deal and, at this stage, we believe that further effort should be devoted to
evaluating
areas of need and fit before we commit additional efforts to specifically porting information into Wikidata.
Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions or concerns about this decision. Best,
Jon
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:WikiGrok/Test2 [2] Quality of responses, version A:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:All_Campagins,_Scatterplot,_version_(a).p...
[3] Quality of responses, version B:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:All_Campaigns,_Scatterplot,_version_(b).p...
[4]
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/WikiGrok?limit=500
[5]
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/WikiGrok
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