On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:11:19 +0100, Bináris <wikiposta(a)gmail.com> wrote: The code change itself will go live with MW 1.21wmf11 (see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21/Roadmap for deployment dates), and I'll try to get the configuration changes deployed on pl.wiki (and possibly uk.wiki as well) shortly afterwards. There's no Great Deployment Plan (yet), and I don't have enough free time (nor access to WMF resources) to draft one. As I said, I'll mail the -ambassadors list, set up testwikis and submit config change proposals for anyone who wishes to have one, and that's probably all I can do. I'll try to poke some Wikimedia communities about this, though (especially ones with particularly fanciful ;) alphabets). -- Matma Rex

I had to add 'be-tarask' to $tailoringFirstLetters and set $wgCategoryCollation explicitly to make this thing work. But it damn works! Awesome, thanks! Can character mapping be also implemented here? For example, in Belarusian letter «Ґ» should be in the same section as «Г», and «Ў» in the same section as «У». It's not an urgent request, just my curiosity. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Pavel Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:33:57 +0100, Paul Selitskas <p.selitskas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Yes, it's not enabled by default. That should probably wait until the support is more battle-tested :) I created a testwiki in Belarussian with uca-be collation to test this: http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~matmarex/testwiki-be/index.php?title=%D0%9A%D0… It seems like Ґ and Г behave correctly. I don't know why Ў and У are separate; probably most languages they're used in consider them entirely separate letters. This is certainly doable, though; we simply need to make Ў not create a heading in the same way we made ё create one; it should start sorting under У then. I didn't realize this kind of behavior is possible :) (If they are sorted / separated differently on your install, you probably need to run the maintenance/languages/generateCollationData.php script - see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43740 .) -- Matma Rex

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:28:43 +0100, Paul Selitskas <p.selitskas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Ah, that's great, I misunderstood. :) -- Matma Rex

IcuCollation is the name of the mediawiki class. The actual underlying code is from a software project called Icu (or more specificly icu4c). Which version used depends on which version mediawiki is compiled against. Version 1.8 is really really old (which makes me think you got the wrong software project maybe?). The latest stable release is 50, but 51 is going to be released soon. We use version 4.2 of icu library which implements CLDR 1.7 and Unicode 5.1, which is a tad older but not horribly. I believe people want to update icu to a newer version for better chinese collation. I imagine eventually things would be updated to a version that has the script reordering. Otoh icu library updates have a high cost, so maybe not unless there is a better benefit than reordering the script. (note script reordering is already an option. The only difference in newest uca is that reordering the script is the default instead of an option). Tl; dr: no. Its compatible with a version of uca. But uca is not a fixed standard and changes. -bawolff On 2013-03-02 8:31 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: