He has a got a point. It could be nice to be able to include that stuff in the META headers, by having the geolinks templates ( such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Coordinates_templates ) include some wikitext like "{{GEOHEADER|long=151.21459|lat=-33.87531}}", where "GEOHEADER" was a magic wiki word, that did a "-01234567890." sanity check on the args (like RFC, ISBN, and PMID), and if it checked out included the appropriate headers.
However, some devil's advocate questions come to mind: * How used are these headers, really? Is it a niche thing? * If it's niche thing currently, then why? Is the reason because it's useless / a-solution-in-search-of-a-problem, or is it a niche thing because nobody has put up a large corpus of useful data that uses it yet? * Are there standards that cover this stuff? Have those standards been ratified / broadly agreed up / standardized / progressed beyond draft status / reached consensus by some independent group / body / organisation? * Which of the format or formats are we talking about? For example, from http://webtips.dan.info/titles.html , I see there are things like this:
<META name="geo.position" content="26.367559;-80.12172"> <META name="geo.region" content="US-FL"> <META name="geo.placename" content="Boca Raton, FL"> <META name="ICBM" content="26.367559, -80.12172">
( see http://geotags.com/geo/geotags2.html and http://geourl.org/add.html ; seems also to be some info about Flickr tags on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoTagging about using yet another method) * Would it be just "ICBM" we're taking about, or just "geo.position", or both? Because they seem to be doing exactly the same thing. * What about "geo.region", and "geo.placename"?
All the best, Nick.
This code only tells MediaWiki to embed the contents of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mapit-AUS-suburbscale into the article. Right now, no template is able to modify anything within the
<head> tag, which is where any <meta> tag would reside. It might be possible to use sitewide JavaScript to do it, but then that wouldn't be useful for search engines.
Neil Phillips wrote:
Hi,
An increasing number of wiki pages use the
{{Mapit-AUS-suburbscale|long=151.21459|lat=-33.87531}}
Type notation to indicate the page relates to a specific location.
Where would I go to request that this information is also embedded into a meta tag for the page e.g.
<meta name="ICBM" content="-33.87531,151.21459" />
So capable browsers/search engines can use this information more semantically ?
Cheers,
Neil
Thanks Nick,
These headers are being used by a couple of sites, mainly in the blogging space (e.g. http://geourl.org), but getting you're right in asserting that a large corpus would further improve their use.
geo.position and ICBM are interchangeable, an emphasis on latitude and longitude would make more sense for the articles described below, as this information is already in the article (region and place name are less useful as they're inherently ambigious).
The ISBN type approach would seem (to me) to make a great deal of sense.
Cheers,
Neil
"Nick Jenkins" nickpj@gmail.com wrote in message news:8ed5a64e0605250007i71027316m16b20b893bfb9c14@mail.gmail.com...
He has a got a point. It could be nice to be able to include that stuff in the META headers, by having the geolinks templates ( such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Coordinates_templates ) include some wikitext like "{{GEOHEADER|long=151.21459|lat=-33.87531}}", where "GEOHEADER" was a magic wiki word, that did a "-01234567890." sanity check on the args (like RFC, ISBN, and PMID), and if it checked out included the appropriate headers.
However, some devil's advocate questions come to mind:
- How used are these headers, really? Is it a niche thing?
- If it's niche thing currently, then why? Is the reason because it's
useless / a-solution-in-search-of-a-problem, or is it a niche thing because nobody has put up a large corpus of useful data that uses it yet?
- Are there standards that cover this stuff? Have those standards been
ratified / broadly agreed up / standardized / progressed beyond draft status / reached consensus by some independent group / body / organisation?
- Which of the format or formats are we talking about? For example,
from http://webtips.dan.info/titles.html , I see there are things like this:
<META name="geo.position" content="26.367559;-80.12172"> <META name="geo.region" content="US-FL"> <META name="geo.placename" content="Boca Raton, FL"> <META name="ICBM" content="26.367559, -80.12172">
( see http://geotags.com/geo/geotags2.html and http://geourl.org/add.html ; seems also to be some info about Flickr tags on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoTagging about using yet another method)
- Would it be just "ICBM" we're taking about, or just "geo.position",
or both? Because they seem to be doing exactly the same thing.
- What about "geo.region", and "geo.placename"?
All the best, Nick.
This code only tells MediaWiki to embed the contents of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mapit-AUS-suburbscale into the article. Right now, no template is able to modify anything within the
<head> tag, which is where any <meta> tag would reside. It might be possible to use sitewide JavaScript to do it, but then that wouldn't be useful for search engines.
Neil Phillips wrote:
Hi,
An increasing number of wiki pages use the
{{Mapit-AUS-suburbscale|long=151.21459|lat=-33.87531}}
Type notation to indicate the page relates to a specific location.
Where would I go to request that this information is also embedded into a meta tag for the page e.g.
<meta name="ICBM" content="-33.87531,151.21459" />
So capable browsers/search engines can use this information more semantically ?
Cheers,
Neil
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