On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:09:54PM -0800, Daniel Mayer wrote:

Is it my imagination or has Wikipedia articles lost almost all Google page rank ratings? Check out and test pages listed on: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_10_Google_hits

Every one I tested was no longer in the top 10. For example, searching for <"Cartesian product"> doesn't seem to find our Wikipedia article (which was the #1 hit) and more shocking is that < "Cartesian product" Wikipedia> doesn't bring up the current .org article either! See

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_...

It is as if everything in www.wikipedia.org/wiki/ is being totally ignored by Googlebot for some reason.

As far as I understand how google works, www.wikipedia.com had high page rank and lot of links to it. Now almost all of these links go to www.wikipedia.org, so: * www.wikipedia.org has links but low page rank * www.wikipedia.com has high page rank but few links

So neither will get good scores at google.

It will improve when google will refresh their cache.

Recent changes is getting swamped. I often find "junk" entries which haven't been cleaned up some 12 hours after creation -- this did not happen, say, 6 months ago.

The problem is that to catch up with the site, I (and other I presume) need to load some 2,500 edits from Recent changes That's over 1MB of HTML, it takes forever to load, and there's no knowing how far back it goes. This morning I had to load 1,500, then 2,000, then finally 2500 to find my last edit.

We need something that lists from a particular date *forwards* for a certain number of entires, as well as current behavious *back* from the present.

What I sugest is this: something that behaves in the opposite way to the "from date D, limit L" syntax in the RC URL. This currently does: "list up to L entries newer than date D, starting from the present and going back toward older entries" This always includes the most recent edit, but not necessarily the date D edit if L is small.

I would like to be able to request: "list up to L entries newer than date D, starting from *date D itself* and going forward" This would always include the date D edit, and not necessarily the most recent edit if L is small. Hope that makes sense. I don't mean that the list order should be reversed -- date D would still be at the foot of the page, newer edits at the top.

With this feature, I could go through these in 500-item chunks, starting from when I logged off and working my way through.

A link on the Recent Changes page would be nice -- something that lists: {number of edits as set in preferences} forwards from date marked at top

We'd be able to copy this link to bookmarks on logging off, and resume from the same place next time