We've pushed some updates to UploadWizard, most notably:
* disabled multiple-file selection in browsers where it didn't work * files now start uploading immediately when selected (this can be disabled server-side if there are problems with it) * improved category input fields * 'skip tutorial' step is now saved as a pref instead of a cookie -- so the tutorial won't come back every time you switch computers anymore! * fixes for when pre-upload thumbnails do and don't get drawn * initial API for fetching upload campaign metadata ('action=uploadcampaign'), to be used by Wiki Loves Monuments mobile app
Don't be shy about giving feedback!
-- brion
2012/5/25 Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org:
- files now start uploading immediately when selected (this can be disabled
server-side if there are problems with it)
Yeeey... less wasted time.
- improved category input fields
What does that mean, exactly? Is there a bug associated with that?
- 'skip tutorial' step is now saved as a pref instead of a cookie -- so the
tutorial won't come back every time you switch computers anymore!
- fixes for when pre-upload thumbnails do and don't get drawn
- initial API for fetching upload campaign metadata
('action=uploadcampaign'), to be used by Wiki Loves Monuments mobile app
Don't be shy about giving feedback!
Did you also enable the parameter passing feature?
Will there be another push to fix UW bugs before september? There are still open issues that we would like to see resolved before WLM.
Thanks, Strainu
On 05/25/2012 03:06 AM, Strainu wrote:
2012/5/25 Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org:
- files now start uploading immediately when selected (this can be disabled
server-side if there are problems with it)
Yeeey... less wasted time.
Yes! Yay!
- improved category input fields
What does that mean, exactly? Is there a bug associated with that?
Maybe it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28850 or https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32353 but I'm not sure. For more details on the recent updates, see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard... (all of the merged commits specifically to the UploadWizard extension since late April, excepting the localisation messaging updates).
Did you also enable the parameter passing feature?
I can't tell from searching Bugzilla & Gerrit - can you give a bug number or commit number?
Will there be another push to fix UW bugs before september? There are still open issues that we would like to see resolved before WLM.
Strainu, is there a unified list of those issues? I did some searching and I couldn't find one.
But when I compare that list of merged commits in Gerrit to https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FUploadWiz... I'm happier, because there are now more developers with active expertise in UploadWizard than there used to be. It's more likely that issues can get fixed faster.
Thanks, Strainu
Thanks, and good luck with WLM!
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Sumana Harihareswara sumanah@wikimedia.org wrote:
What does that mean, exactly? Is there a bug associated with that?
Maybe it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28850 or https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32353 but I'm not sure.
I generally try to keep https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_Wizard_news up-to-date, it's explained in more detail there.
(Bugzilla: 28850) Improved category interface: You no longer need to confirm each category, and the indicator that a category does not exist is passive as opposed to a scary dialog.
Did you also enable the parameter passing feature?
I can't tell from searching Bugzilla & Gerrit - can you give a bug number or commit number?
Indeed, I'm not sure what this refers to either.
Will there be another push to fix UW bugs before september? There are still open issues that we would like to see resolved before WLM.
Strainu, is there a unified list of those issues? I did some searching and I couldn't find one.
Seconded - if you want to create a tracking bug for issues that you see as blockers for WLM 2012, that would be very helpful.
We don't have a lot of dedicated effort on Upload Wizard right now, but a single contractor (Mark Holmquist) will continue to churn through issues/feature requests at least for another 2 months or so, and Brion and Kaldari have kindly been helping with code reviews and improvements. The main priority areas for improvements are error handling + small UX issues.
Plus, there's an exciting GSOC project for improved Flickr integration ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Drecodeam/GSoC_2012_Application ), Kaldari is mentoring that one as well.
2012/5/26 Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Sumana Harihareswara sumanah@wikimedia.org wrote:
What does that mean, exactly? Is there a bug associated with that?
Maybe it's https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28850 or https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32353 but I'm not sure.
I generally try to keep https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_Wizard_news up-to-date, it's explained in more detail there.
(Bugzilla: 28850) Improved category interface: You no longer need to confirm each category, and the indicator that a category does not exist is passive as opposed to a scary dialog.
Did you also enable the parameter passing feature?
I can't tell from searching Bugzilla & Gerrit - can you give a bug number or commit number?
Indeed, I'm not sure what this refers to either.
I was talking about http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2012-May/002904.html
Obviously, I did not read that email carefully, since it gives a link to commons, so yeah, it was deployed.
Will there be another push to fix UW bugs before september? There are still open issues that we would like to see resolved before WLM.
Strainu, is there a unified list of those issues? I did some searching and I couldn't find one.
Seconded - if you want to create a tracking bug for issues that you see as blockers for WLM 2012, that would be very helpful.
Will do over the weekend.
Strainu
2012/5/26 Strainu strainu10@gmail.com:
2012/5/26 Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Sumana Harihareswara sumanah@wikimedia.org wrote:
Strainu, is there a unified list of those issues? I did some searching and I couldn't find one.
Seconded - if you want to create a tracking bug for issues that you see as blockers for WLM 2012, that would be very helpful.
Will do over the weekend.
I've asked around and found out about https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Upload_wizar...
The bug list is empty as of now, we'll fill it as we go along. I've also logged https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37144 for tracking WLM bugs, I'll do my best to keep those 2 in sync.
Strainu
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org wrote:
We've pushed some updates to UploadWizard, most notably:
- disabled multiple-file selection in browsers where it didn't work
- files now start uploading immediately when selected (this can be disabled
server-side if there are problems with it)
- improved category input fields
- 'skip tutorial' step is now saved as a pref instead of a cookie -- so the
tutorial won't come back every time you switch computers anymore!
- fixes for when pre-upload thumbnails do and don't get drawn
- initial API for fetching upload campaign metadata
('action=uploadcampaign'), to be used by Wiki Loves Monuments mobile app
I don't know if anything changed with the license selector part of the code and interface, but I tried uploading some maps (from OpenStreetMap) with the upload wizard. More than once, I completely missed the license selection part (e.g. not see it, not fill it out).
When I did find it, it was not intuitive. OSM maps are [still] CC-BY-SA 2.0 and I had to chose the "expert" option, and then go to the Commons:Licensing page and then find link to the copyright tags page.
I don't necessarily mind this for the expert option, but since we know the source is openstreetmap.org (from what I put in the source field), wouldn't it be nice if it automatically suggested CC-BY-SA 2.0 license. Or if the source is .gov, then suggest public domain. [of course, also be able to override it like a combo box]
Cheers, Katie
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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:36 PM, aude aude.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if anything changed with the license selector part of the code and interface, but I tried uploading some maps (from OpenStreetMap) with the upload wizard. More than once, I completely missed the license selection part (e.g. not see it, not fill it out).
Checking your recent uploads on Commons, I see two: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Location_map_Washington_DC.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Locator_Map_of_Washington_DC,_May_20...
One was not uploaded through UW but through the "upload new file" mechanism. The other was uploaded without license with the license provided later.
You cannot skip the "Release rights" step, but you can choose "I believe this work is freely licensed or legally in the public domain. I understand that if I do not add the necessary licensing information in a timely fashion, the file may be deleted."
This will lead to {{subst:uwl}} on the description page, which what I see here.
I don't necessarily mind this for the expert option, but since we know the source is openstreetmap.org (from what I put in the source field), wouldn't it be nice if it automatically suggested CC-BY-SA 2.0 license. Or if the source is .gov, then suggest public domain. [of course, also be able to override it like a combo box]
Perhaps. Detecting common cases would be nice -- but each one requires special care. Go ahead and file a bug for OSM license detection; we might be able to get to it at least in the long run.
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:36 PM, aude aude.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if anything changed with the license selector part of the
code
and interface, but I tried uploading some maps (from OpenStreetMap) with the upload wizard. More than once, I completely missed the license selection part (e.g. not see it, not fill it out).
Checking your recent uploads on Commons, I see two: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Location_map_Washington_DC.png
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Locator_Map_of_Washington_DC,_May_20...
I deleted a few others that were mistakes (wrong map extents), and the second one above is also a mistake.
One was not uploaded through UW but through the "upload new file" mechanism. The other was uploaded without license with the license provided later.
You cannot skip the "Release rights" step, but you can choose "I believe this work is freely licensed or legally in the public domain. I understand that if I do not add the necessary licensing information in a timely fashion, the file may be deleted."
Okay, that's what happened. I think just intuitively I was looking for form fields to fill out (text boxes, select/combo boxes) and was expecting to see a drop down box for license selection.
Maybe the current layout works for some people though.
Now that I look again, I see the "copyright tags" link for expert users. (missed it before) That's helpful and allows skipping a couple steps. Maybe it could be bold?
This will lead to {{subst:uwl}} on the description page, which what I see here.
I don't necessarily mind this for the expert option, but since we know
the
source is openstreetmap.org (from what I put in the source field),
wouldn't
it be nice if it automatically suggested CC-BY-SA 2.0 license. Or if the source is .gov, then suggest public domain. [of course, also be able to override it like a combo box]
Perhaps. Detecting common cases would be nice -- but each one requires special care. Go ahead and file a bug for OSM license detection; we might be able to get to it at least in the long run.
It would be nice to have for sure.
Also knowing to put a link in the source field (if it's something obtained online) is not obvious unless you know from experience of how the information is turned into the template.
Cheers, Katie
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A question about upload speed - can you show what the current upload speed is in the progress bar? And also, what would be the maximum upload speed that I could expect to achieve with chunked uploading? Technically I've got an upload speed of up to 10MB/s, but my upload speed is considerably slower than that using UploadWizard, is this a server-side constraint due to lack of ability to support everyone at whatever their max uploads will be? I don't mind waiting for an upload to finish, but when people start using the Wizard to upload gigabytes of data, this could lengthen the process considerably.
On 26 May 2012 02:11, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
A question about upload speed - can you show what the current upload speed is in the progress bar? And also, what would be the maximum upload speed that I could expect to achieve with chunked uploading? Technically I've got an upload speed of up to 10MB/s, but my upload speed is considerably slower than that using UploadWizard, is this a server-side constraint due to lack of ability to support everyone at whatever their max uploads will be? I don't mind waiting for an upload to finish, but when people start using the Wizard to upload gigabytes of data, this could lengthen the process considerably. -- Thehelpfulone http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone
I was uploading a 317MB file and I hit an error, Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file. Not sure how to troubleshoot this one, the file is an .ogv downloaded from archive.org.
On 26 May 2012 02:17, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
I was uploading a 317MB file and I hit an error, Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file. Not sure how to troubleshoot this one, the file is an .ogv downloaded from archive.org.
And re-trying gives me Unknown error: " internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException". CCing Brion in as he seems to be working on the Upload Wizard at present.
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonewiki@gmail.com wrote:
And re-trying gives me Unknown error: " internal_api_error_UploadStashFileNotFoundException". CCing Brion in as he seems to be working on the Upload Wizard at present.
Yes, this is the biggest remaining issue we know about with chunked uploads -- looks like the server-side assembly for very large files might be causing timeouts. See further discussion here:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36587
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