On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Leon Ziemba <musikanimal(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
... the size
differences shown on the history and contributions pages,
which is the only thing
that rev_parent_id is used for
This may be true in MediaWiki but not so much for external tools. I just
wanted to preemptively say this. I'll be joining the IRC discussion to
share more :)
~Leon
To add to Leon's use case, I would argue that it may be one use case but
it's a pretty visible one to active contributors who are familiar with the
history page. It may be worth clarifying whether this is a backend change
that would keep the feature intact or if this change would result in a
change to Wikimedia projects' user experience.
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:23 PM Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de
wrote:
As mentioned in the TechCom radar email last
week, there will be a public
IRC
discussion on the future of rev_parent_id on Wednesday, 2018-06-06 in
the
> #wikimedia-office channel at 2pm PST(22:00 UTC, 23:00 CET).
> The RFCs original title was "Use
ar_page_id to determine the parent IDs
for
> undeleted revisions" <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193690>.
> However, the
> discussion has drifted quite a bit, and is now touching on questions
> around the
> size differences shown on the history and contributions pages, which is
> the only
> thing that rev_parent_id is used for. Perhaps we should have filed a
> separate
> ticket, but at this point, that would just have meant splitting the
> conversation, and creating more confusion...
> Anyway, in preparation of the RFC
discussion, here are again the main
> question
> that need answering:
> * Can we do without rev_parent_id
entirely? Can we live without the size
> info
> on Special:Contributions, or can we query it cheaply enough?
> * Do we want to record the original
"edit as intended", and if yes,
where?
> * On a side note, what's the best
way to detect a page's first revision,
> and do
> we still need that if we have the page creation log (and recentchanges).
> I have tried to summarize the
discussion so far, with the available
> options and
> considerations, at <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193690#4254713>.
> --
> Daniel Kinzler
> Principal Platform Engineer
> Wikimedia Deutschland
> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
>
_______________________________________________
> Wikitech-l mailing list
> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
_______________________________________________
Wikitech-l mailing list
Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l