C# - huggle, wm-bot On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Perl (EasyTimeline) > > C++ (Parsoid) > > Prolog, Puppet > > Translation (translatewiki.net) > > And of course, there's that obvious thing that a lot of people don't > realize - editing articles and proofreading books. Unless, of course, > you want to focus only technology. > > -- > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > ‪“We're living in pieces, > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ > > > 2013/4/7 Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com>om>: >> I came across http://www.whatcanidoformozilla.org/ today, and >> proceeded to register whatcanidoforwikipedia.org :) >> >> Thoughts on what to put there? I cal already think of the following >> languages to put up: >> >> 1. PHP >> 2. JS >> 3. Lua >> 4. Python >> 5. Java >> 6. Obj-C >> 7. 'Design' >> >> I'll start a wiki page sometime to collect content, and then spend >> some time writing the code - we can even fork the original site's code >> and use it. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> P.S. Can we *please* not bikeshed on the domain name? Domain names are cheap >> -- >> Yuvi Panda T >> http://yuvi.in/blog >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Petr Bena <benapetr(a)gmail.com> wrote: I just bought whatcanidoforwikimedia.org and whatcanidoformediawiki.org too. Working on the Wiki page now :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog

Yuvi, that's great project of you!

What do you think about adding not only languages but also technologies? For example if you know Semantic Web technologies (RDF and SPARQL) you can help Semantic MediaWiki. Other examples: MapReduce, Natural Language Processing, theory of compilers.

Skeleton page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yuvipanda/whatcanidoforwikipedia.org Fill it in!

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:17 PM, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote: Will do :) It's a nice page, I hadn't checked it out before! I should be able to steal some from there I think for now we should limit scope and only focus on the 'contribute code to Wikimedia' part, rather than the 'use our data in interesting ways' part. The sit is, after all, what can I do *for* wikimedia/wikipedia/mediawiki, rather than *with*. We can get those domains too, but I think that's a much larger project than what I'd want to sign up for right now :) I'm thinking of limiting it to *just* developers to begin with, and add localization afterwards. Thoughts? -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Why not just point it to a page onwiki somewhere? that way everyone can contribute! (we could even semi-protect it I guess...)

The reason why I don't like idea of having this on a wiki page is that it will be never so cool as it is using that code this guy created. It let you interactively pick what you want - mediawiki can't create such a page, or it can but it would be overly complicated.

If you want "Everyone" to be able to contribute, install this to wikimedia labs, and make the project open enough.

C# - huggle, wm-bot On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: cheap _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Thank you Yuvi for putting efforts in new contributor outreach! Let me plug in the thoughts and discussions we have got in a similar direction so far. Back in January Ross (CCed) had the same idea and we started discussing until I enourage him to move to wiki pages & here for further details. Also, let's start applying the lessons learned with the 'Wikitech contributors' debate. On 04/07/2013 03:11 AM, Yuvi Panda wrote: Why not doing exactly the same but on mediawiki.org directly? All the effort put on promoting a brand new site could be put instead in promoting mediawiki.org in a new, fresh way. Why not use the technologies we are already developing? like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GettingStarted https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GuidedTour We would become their users, we would help testing and improving them. The effort you are putting contributing code on this new project could be put instead in patches to those extensions, better CSS and look & feel for our site, etc. Producing and eating our own dog food. Why not improving mediawiki.org pages making them friendly to newcomers instead of creating content from scratch that would point to the same mediawiki.org pages that we would need to improve anyway? For example, no matter how nice your page on Lua is, the users clicking it would still land on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua .... This recollection is exactly the same work we are calling "One ontology" at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:New_contributors#One_ontology Why not creating http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:New_contributors/One_ontology , move this list there and continue defining more categories on that page? Yes please, start a wiki page documenting this effort that I hope becomes the same effort that we want to put in mediawiki.org. URL suggested: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:New_contributors/What_can_I_do -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Paul Selitskas <p.selitskas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Oh sure! What do you think will be the best way to go about this? Translatewiki.net? -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Quim Gil <qgil(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: I think there's a slight misunderstanding.

If you see http://whatcanidoformozilla.org, it doesn't have much *original* content by itself - it just links back to an appropriate page on mozwiki. This one will also be the same - it will just link back to appropriate mediawiki.org pages.

And if the pages are not good enough, I'll try improve them (or poke people into doing that).

Thank you Yuvi for putting efforts in new contributor outreach! Let me plug in the thoughts and discussions we have got in a similar direction so far. Back in January Ross (CCed) had the same idea and we started discussing until I enourage him to move to wiki pages & here for further details. Also, let's start applying the lessons learned with the 'Wikitech contributors' debate. On 04/07/2013 03:11 AM, Yuvi Panda wrote: Why not doing exactly the same but on mediawiki.org directly? All the effort put on promoting a brand new site could be put instead in promoting mediawiki.org in a new, fresh way.

Why not use the technologies we are already developing? like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GettingStarted https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GuidedTour We would become their users, we would help testing and improving them. The effort you are putting contributing code on this new project could be put instead in patches to those extensions, better CSS and look & feel for our site, etc. Producing and eating our own dog food.

On Sunday, April 7, 2013, Yuvi Panda wrote: Wikipedia needs editors just as much or more than it needs people who know PHP etc. I would prefer to focus on higher levels of contribution, one of which would be Code, and then drills down into the languages or

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I would love a single landing page that asks "What Can I Do…" and then has some really big, pretty buttons: [Write Content] [Write Code] [Donate Money] [Donate Services]

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Brandon Harris <bharris@wikimedia.org<javascript:;>> wrote: and then has some really big, pretty buttons: If there is design and content, I'll be happy to write the code :) Content, IMO, is the biggest factor here. Volunteers to help with the content? -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog

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Brandon has done landing pages before (SOPA anyone?)

I would love a single landing page that asks "What Can I Do…" and then has some really big, pretty buttons: [Write Content] [Write Code] [Donate Money] [Donate Services] And then each goes to separate pages that explain what can be done. On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Jon Robson &lt;jdlrobson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Paul Selitskas &lt;p.selitskas(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Also ponies :)