larousse - single PIII/866 pliny - dual Athlon 2600+ new machine - dual Athlon 2600+ db server - dual opteron mega server
With this setup, we can have larousse act as the load balancer frontend for the 2 webservers pliny and new, which can be mirror images of each other. This is much cleaner than any sort of dns-based setup.
Also, in the short run, it will permit us to just put the intl-wikis on the new machine and keep en on the existing machine, or something similar, which should be a pretty reasonable way to load balance as well while we work out the details of the other architecture.
The PIII/866 is *more* than powerful enough to do iptables load balancing, if anyone is wondering about that. I've done this before, and you can handle a ton of traffic with not a lot of hardware, because packet rewriting is easy.
And once we have this structure in place, one great thing is that it's very scalable -- to increase capacity we just add extra webservers, which can go into the mix seamlessly.
--Jimbo
Are we going to be able to fix the en-en2 url situation? There's no reason that the public should see en2 urls.
The Cunctator wrote:
Are we going to be able to fix the en-en2 url situation? There's no reason that the public should see en2 urls.
Yes, that's one of my primary motivations in hurrying up and giving another server now.
Wikimedia Foundation also has around $4,000 in the bank right now, so in addition to this server, we can also talk about whether we want to add a 3rd webserver sooner rather than later (my preference), or whether it's more urgent to have a standalone mail/mailinglist/phpbb site.
--Jimbo
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 11:17:09AM -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Wikimedia Foundation also has around $4,000 in the bank right now, so in addition to this server, we can also talk about whether we want to add a 3rd webserver sooner rather than later (my preference), or whether it's more urgent to have a standalone mail/mailinglist/phpbb site.
infode-l really needs a spam filter. I'm sure some other lists too.
ciao, tom
If you set the list options so that mail from unsubscribed people is automatically rejected, then you'll see virtually no spam. Or, is there something else going on in this case?
Thomas R. Koll wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 11:17:09AM -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Wikimedia Foundation also has around $4,000 in the bank right now, so in addition to this server, we can also talk about whether we want to add a 3rd webserver sooner rather than later (my preference), or whether it's more urgent to have a standalone mail/mailinglist/phpbb site.
infode-l really needs a spam filter. I'm sure some other lists too.
ciao, tom
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Jimmy Wales wrote:
If you set the list options so that mail from unsubscribed people is automatically rejected, then you'll see virtually no spam. Or, is there something else going on in this case?
Thomas R. Koll wrote:
For a real list you can do that. I have set Intlwiki-l so to reject all postings by non-listmembers.
But infode-l is not a real list but a "Contact Wikipedia" address. A emailaddress for visitors to ask a question. It is normal that the are not listmembers.
The Dutch Wikipedia is using for this the listadmin address of the list; wikinl-l-owner AT wikipedia.org There is also no spamfilter on that address. For now we do not get many spam on that address.
A emailaddress in the format; info@XX.wikipedia.org to cantact a Wikipedia is nicer.
Jimbo wrote:
If you set the list options so that mail from unsubscribed people is automatically rejected, then you'll see virtually no spam. Or, is there something else going on in this case?
Mails to info@wikipedia.de are forwarded to this list, so rejecting unsubscribed people would be a bad idea ... :-)
Kurt
On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 02:36:10PM +0100, Kurt Jansson wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
If you set the list options so that mail from unsubscribed people is automatically rejected, then you'll see virtually no spam. Or, is there something else going on in this case?
Mails to info@wikipedia.de are forwarded to this list, so rejecting unsubscribed people would be a bad idea ... :-)
I've talked with brion about and I'm quite sure that he might install spamassassin or something like that. I gonna try it on my own box (GMX.de is good at filtering but could do better).
ciao, tom
On Dec 24, 2003, at 06:47, Thomas R. Koll wrote:
I've talked with brion about and I'm quite sure that he might install spamassassin or something like that. I gonna try it on my own box (GMX.de is good at filtering but could do better).
I actually installed SpamAssassin some time ago but never quite got around to figuring out how to plug it into postfix. I asked on the list if anyone could advise and heard only silence.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 04:09:11PM -0800, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Dec 24, 2003, at 06:47, Thomas R. Koll wrote:
I've talked with brion about and I'm quite sure that he might install spamassassin or something like that. I gonna try it on my own box (GMX.de is good at filtering but could do better).
I actually installed SpamAssassin some time ago but never quite got around to figuring out how to plug it into postfix. I asked on the list if anyone could advise and heard only silence.
I've installed it myself and still have to train it, but it's already working at 50%. I'm running it with procmail to do all at once.
They have a wiki over here http://wiki.spamassassin.org/w/
For MTAs (90% PostFix, lucky brion) http://wiki.spamassassin.org/w/IntegratedInMta
Training the Bayes-Filter needs some spam and ham first. That means some manual sorting before it works. http://wiki.spamassassin.org/w/BayesInSpamAssassin
ciao, tom
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