I once spent 5 months testing the same application, and finding bug after bug. The programmers whose code I was testing were not so gracious as E23 or Brion, however. They kept announcing that they had "fixed all the bugs" and seemed to find my reports dismaying. Anyway, I guess my little daughter must have overheard me discussing work, because she started a hobby of finding bugs from the garden outside and bringing them in the house in little jars, to study under her magnifying glass! She wanted to be just like her dad, I guess :-) Ed Poor