David, thanks for this find. THIS is why the Code of Conduct is needed. I recognized myself in this blog. I remembered avoiding any aspect of socialization at conferences I had to attend for work, and simply didn't even consider attending conferences for any other purpose. I remembered how readily "the guys" assumed that any woman there was there for more than just networking and learning. I remembered having my butt pinched, my breasts "accidentally touched", my questions ignored or laughed at. I remember how the buzz of background conversation is always much louder when the speaker is a woman than when the speaker is a man. It's changed for me. Not because there's any less of all of this going on. No, it's because my hair is grey and I'm now old enough to be the mom of half the people in the room at any male-dominated conferences I attend; and outside of Wikimedia events, the conferences I go to are usually full of conservative businesswomen, and alcohol is rarely involved. So yeah...you need a code of conduct. Because if I was even 15 years younger, I'd never go to a Wikimedia conference. Risker/Anne On 22 August 2015 at 20:03, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote: http://www.perpendicularangel.com/2015/08/no-i-dont-trust-your-conference-w… _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l