I'm working on a (clearly :-) non-WMF project using MediaWiki, and I've tripped over something that I can't figure out how to do using the templating language. Several things I've seen in various WP templates suggest there are many thing about that part of the parser that I don't understand (and can't locate doco for), but if there's a better list than this on which to ask, please let me know. And so, to the problem: I'm trying to use MW as a database. I just wanted to get out of the way up front that I realize that's the problem here. :-) I have a template ("A"). This template is instantiated on many pages ("A"->"B", "A"->"C", "A"->"D"). Those pages are in turn transcluded onto other pages: "A"->"B"->"E" "A"->"B"->"F" "A"->"B"->"G" "A"->"C"->"H" "A"->"C"->"I" "A"->"C"->"J" "A"->"D"->"K" "A"->"D"->"L" What I'm trying to accomplish is to include a link on "A" that, when the user is looking at "I" will permit them to edit "C". I had been hoping that I could include the PAGENAMEE magic word in the template ("A") as part of an HTTP edit link, but alas, PAGENAMEE (and presumably all the other magic words that pertain to pages) bind so late in the parse chain that they point to "I" in that situation. In a situation like this, is there any reasonable way to grab the name of "C" from inside the code of "A"? Something with subst:, maybe? The actual pages are A: http://tbkinfo.net/wiki/index.php/Template:Infobox_Show C: http://tbkinfo.net/wiki/index.php/O%27Maddy%27s_House I: http://tbkinfo.net/wiki/index.php/O%27Maddy%27s Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra(a)baylink.com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my message body?