Code a logger for the bot.

2017-07-25 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org>rg>: I understand, but I think it would be worth to discuss this *therefore.* Nulledits are not subjects of privacy protection, they are now in protected logs only accidentally or for historical reasons. If there is an action noticed by the server (definitely there is, because it has an effect on the page, that's why people often do it), it may be logged in the way real edits are. This would be also be useful for researchers. One may be interested in the pattern of null edits, the quantity of them (e.g. is it useful to null edit 20.000 pages because of the change of a template, or is it actual to find some better way of making the changes visible?). If there is no reason to exclude these from logs (I don't see any), we should make them visible. Perhaps not by default, but with a switch. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

By definition, a null edit does not perform any change at all, and is therefore not recorded publicly since there's technically nothing to record. I suspect the only way you could find this kind of information is in the server logs, and access to those is very tightly restricted for privacy reasons.

I've looked over the code briefly and it looks like null edits are not logged in any way, not even in private server logs. However, for the purposes of preventing abuse, null edits check the 'linkpurge' rate limit (which is set to 30 actions per minute by default), and exceeding rate limits is logged in server logs. -- Bartosz Dziewoński _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l