A very welcome move! An ad hoc search engine consists of wget | tar | sed | grep I personally use gmail to search the lists. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Forwarded conversation Subject: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list archives again ------------------------ From: *Michael Bimmler* &lt;mbimmler(a)gmail.com&gt; Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM To: Wikimedia developers &lt;wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; [courtesy copy to foundation-l, though I suggest that discussion, if any, be centralised on wikitech-l] Hi all, the search index for the mailinglist archives was last rebuilt in January. Now, after having made quite a few queries about this here and at other places, I learnt (and obviously had to accept) that rebuilding the search index is quite a resources-consuming process which resulted in crashes. To put it bluntly, I dare suggest from a non-technical POV that the "htdig" (that's the name, isn't it?) experiment has failed. If we can only update our search index every 6 months or so, it is pointless to have it. Instead, I suggest that http://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt be modified as to allow Google (and other search engines) to crawl /pipermail/ again. I do not really see the privacy issues of this, nabble, gmane etc. are google-searchable as well and I really don't see the point in barring Google from our own archive. If I am very honest, I do not even remember anymore, why we decided to bar Google from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail. Was it due to privacy concerns? If so, which, and why is lists.wikimedia.orgas an archive different from Nabble/Gmane? Thanks, Michael -- Michael Bimmler mbimmler(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ---------- From: *Birgitte SB* &lt;birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com&gt; Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 12:31 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; I support this especially as url's to old messages are not stable. An effective search is greatly needed. I have spent a long time on occasion for searching for things I am certain exist and came up with nothing. Birgitte SB --- On Sun, 4/27/08, Michael Bimmler &lt;mbimmler(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: again ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ---------- From: *David Goodman* &lt;dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com&gt; Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 1:01 PM To: birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com, Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List < foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; absolutely no. G already indexes much too many of the incidental discussions at WP. -- David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG ---------- From: *Kwan Ting Chan* &lt;ktc(a)ktchan.info&gt; Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 1:34 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Cc: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org So we want open content, open discussion, transparency, ....., but let's not allow someone the ability to easily search for what's been so openly discussed? KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ---------- From: *Philippe Beaudette* &lt;philippebeaudette(a)gmail.com&gt; Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 1:39 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; To my mind, the potential benefits outweigh the potential risks, unless someone can create an argument that hasn't occurred to me yet (which is not un-likely, since this isn't a question I've pondered in great depth). Philippe -------------------------------------------------- From: "David Goodman" &lt;dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com&gt; Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:01 PM To: &lt;birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com&gt;om>; "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Request to allow Google to search list ---------- From: *David Goodman* &lt;dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com&gt; Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 9:54 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Its an open list--if they join it, they can search it. ---------- From: *Samuel Henderson* &lt;samueljhenderson(a)gmail.com&gt; Date: Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:26 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Well, if anyone making a non-trivial investment of time and effort can already search the archives, it seems to me that nothing would be lost by making the archives *more* open and accessible. Great! Let's do it. In other words, if that was meant to be the new, unconsidered argument that Philippe mentioned, it went straight over my head. Cheers, Sam On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM, David Goodman &lt;dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Casey Brown &lt;cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:37 PM, &lt;jidanni(a)jidanni.org&gt; wrote: If you looked, you'd see that Brian just sent the whole thing to the list again. :-) -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.