Hi, On 8/26/21 11:48 PM, Volker E. wrote: Is there a retrospective or explanation of why WVUI is being abandoned/deprecated/replaced? I read through [0] and [1] but didn't see any explanation of *why* this is happening, what went wrong with WVUI. It also feels a bit weird to me that the event was billed as a "Developer Summit for everyone involved in writing Vue.js code across our various projects" when this objectively wasn't true given that there are actively people working on Wikimedia-related Vue.js projects (even mentioned and thanked in this email!) who weren't invited and excluded. [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_Systems_Team/Vue.js_Developer_Summit_… -- Legoktm

Hi Legoktm and AntiCompositeNumber, please find my replies inline. On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 6:33 PM AntiCompositeNumber <anticompositenumber(a)gmail.com> wrote: Agreed, a misleading lapse that was on the article page since our team has started it. Further down at “Who” we've stated “Wikimedia Foundation and WMDE staff who are involved in writing Vue.js code across our projects”. [4] In short, the summit was the culmination of an internal retrospective and we will share out a blog post on the agreements and resulting recommendations by 20 plus designers and more than 60 mostly engineers of the two events. We're on the brink of important technological changes, which are directly related to and will have an impact on the developer experience and the speed of progress towards a production-ready, shared library. Developer experience and evolving our technology platform [5] have been the underlying pillars for the decision for Vue.js. I've mentioned the change from Vue 2 to Vue 3 and removal of Internet Explorer 11 support [6] for modern, JavaScript enabled experience. Both of those and some other technical questions have been differently approached in current WVUI, and other WMF and WMDE libs and resulted in limitations like not using ES6 client code [7]. Also, we're going to transfer the good parts of the existing implementations into the new library quickly. What I've shared above, a sentence that unintendedly stayed unchanged. We were working hard on the contents of the designer workshop and developer summit and were trying to bring all staff designers and developers collaborating on and with the library in a very short time window together. At the same time, we've been aiming at sharing out our agreements and recommendations and gathering further feedback. For example, DannyS712 as an important contributor to WVUI has been informed by myself about two months ago about the internal agreements to be still set. And I've followed up in Gerrit comments about the progress that led to filing the release task [8]. Best, Volker [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design_Systems_Team/Vue.js_Developer_Summit_… [5] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Platform_Evolution [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Browser_support_matrix [7] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178356 [8] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289377