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Amir E. Aharoni

27 Jan 2014 27 Jan '14

12:07 p.m.

Hi Scott, I tried to run it. If I understand the docs correctly, then the command node bin/mw-ocg-bundler -o bundle.zip --prefix he --title "ASCII" is supposed to create a bundle from the Hebrew Wikipedia article "ASCII". (It's title is in written in Latin letter.) When I try to run it, I get the following error: Either the -m option or a page title is required. Also, the help screen says this: --title <title> Set the title of the generated collection So is the --title option for the collection title of for the input article title? Thanks! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014/1/21 C. Scott Ananian <cananian(a)wikimedia.org>

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Amir, Gerard: The easiest way to test locally at the moment is to use the standalone 'mw-ocg-bundler' and 'mw-ocg-latexer' node packages. There are good installation instructions in the READMEs, see: https://npmjs.org/package/mw-ocg-bundler https://npmjs.org/package/mw-ocg-latexer and let me know if I need to document anything better. This will let you pull individual articles from an arbitrary wiki, and then typeset them with xelatex. There is currently good support for quite a number of languages. My standard test case contains: http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/ليونيل_ميسي http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/بشير_الثاني_الشهابي http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/حمزة_بن_عبد_المطلب http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/إسطنبول http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/الحرب_الإنجليزية_الزنجبارية http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latas_de_sopa_Campbell http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/کعبه_زرتشت http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachylepis_atlantica http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/ספרטה http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/रामायण http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_vita_è_meravigliosa http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/熊野三山本願所 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/金星の日面通過 http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/조화진동자 http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/മലയാളം http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efekt_potwierdzenia http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphyglottis http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Битва_при_Платеях http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vệ_tinh_tự_nhiên_của_Sao_Thiên_Vương http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/納粹德國海軍 and a few other English articles. That said, I don't read most of these languages, so I've mostly been trying to ensure that our output matches the HTML displayed by the wiki. It is quite possible I've chosen bad-looking fonts, or that there are other details that could be improved. (For example, the way that Vietnamese stacked accents was bad for a while; I've fixed that now.) Comments eagerly requested! --scott ps. there are a number of minor issues with citations in RTL languages, even in our standard HTML rendering on the wikis; it appears that our citation templates should be more aggressive about adding <bdi> tags or lang attributes to ensure that citations of LTR sources in an RTL article are displayed as nicely as possible. If these fixes are made to the source, the latex output should inherit them. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Matthew Walker

27 Jan 27 Jan

7:29 p.m.

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So is the --title option for the collection title of for the input article title?

Amir E. Aharoni

7:35 p.m.

(Sorry - I thought that I'm sending this to Scott.) If I try to do node bin/mw-ocg-bundler -o bundle.zip --prefix he "ASCII" Then I get: Error: Error fetching Parsoid result: http://parsoid-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org/he/ASCII -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-01-27 Matthew Walker <mwalker(a)wikimedia.org>

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So is the --title option for the collection title of for the input

article

title?

It's for the title of the book generated by the bundler. The title of the article you wish to render should just follow all the other options. So... node bin/mw-ocg-bundler -o bundle.zip --prefix he "ASCII" Or... node bin/mw-ocg-bundler -o bundle.zip --prefix he --title "My Awesome Book About Code Formats" "ASCII" _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

C. Scott Ananian

8 p.m.

Yes, the prefix for the hebrew wiki is actually "hewiki", not "he". Other than that, your command line looks correct. --scott

Amir E. Aharoni

9:57 p.m.

OK, so that seemed to work, and then I tried: node node_modules/mw-ocg-latexer/bin/mw-ocg-latexer node_modules/mw-ocg-bundler/bundle.zip And I got a long list of errors - see below. Am I doing something incorrectly? Do I have missing packages? [amire80@theodor ocg]$ node node_modules/mw-ocg-latexer/bin/mw-ocg-latexer node_modules/mw-ocg-bundler/bundle.zip This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.0 (TeX Live 2013/dev) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./output.tex LaTeX2e <2011/06/27> Babel <v3.8m> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, lo aded. (/tmp/mw-ocg-latexer114624iv1bxs/output.tex (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3names.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty)) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/etex-pkg/etex.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3expan.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3tl.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3seq.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3int.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3quark.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3prg.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3clist.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3token.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3prop.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3msg.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3file.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3skip.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3keys.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3fp.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3box.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3coffins.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3color.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3luatex.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3candidates.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse/xparse.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-patches.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fixltx2e.sty) ************************************************* * LaTeX warning: "xparse/redefine-command" * * Redefining document command \oldstylenums with arg. spec. 'm' on line 128. ************************************************* ) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-xetex.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty ! Package fontenc Error: Encoding file `eu1enc.def' not found. (fontenc) You might have misspelt the name of the encoding. See the fontenc package documentation for explanation. Type H <return> for immediate help. ... l.99 \ProcessOptions* No pages of output. Transcript written on output.log. --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Error: { [Error: Latex Error! Check your latex string] code: 1, stdout: 'This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.0 (TeX Live 2013/dev)\n restricted \\write18 enabled.\nentering extended mode\n(./output.tex\nLaTeX2e <2011/06/27>\nBabel <v3.8m> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, lo\naded.\n(/tmp/mw-ocg-latexer114624iv1bxs/output.tex\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls\nDocument Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.sty\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3.sty\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3names.sty\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty))\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/etex-pkg/etex.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3expan.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3tl.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3seq.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3int.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3quark.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3prg.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3clist.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3token.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3prop.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3msg.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3file.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3skip.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3keys.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3fp.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3box.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3coffins.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3color.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3luatex.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3candidates.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty))\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse/xparse.sty)\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-patches.sty\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fixltx2e.sty)\n*************************************************\n* LaTeX warning: "xparse/redefine-command"\n* \n* Redefining document command \\oldstylenums with arg. spec. \'m\' on line 128.\n*************************************************\n) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-xetex.sty\n(/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty\n\n! Package fontenc Error: Encoding file `eu1enc.def\' not found.\n(fontenc) You might have misspelt the name of the encoding.\n\nSee the fontenc package documentation for explanation.\nType H <return> for immediate help.\n ... \n \nl.99 \\ProcessOptions*\n \nNo pages of output.\nTranscript written on output.log.\n', stderr: '' } -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-01-27 C. Scott Ananian <cananian(a)wikimedia.org>

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Yes, the prefix for the hebrew wiki is actually "hewiki", not "he". Other than that, your command line looks correct. --scott _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

C. Scott Ananian

10:23 p.m.

Looks like you're probably missing packages. The /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/euenc/eu1enc.def file is in the package 'texlive-xetex' on my system. It's strange that you don't seem to have it. I'm testing on XeTeX 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.3-2013120515 (TeX Live 2013/Debian). How did you install texlive? --scott On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

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Amir E. Aharoni

10:31 p.m.

Well, I'm on Fedora... I found the package for this file, but now I'm stuck with something else. If you don't happen to know the needed Fedora packages, I guess I'll have to find out for myself. Thanks for the help! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-01-27 C. Scott Ananian <cananian(a)wikimedia.org>

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node_modules/mw-ocg-latexer/bin/mw-ocg-latexer

node_modules/mw-ocg-bundler/bundle.zip This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.0 (TeX Live 2013/dev) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./output.tex LaTeX2e <2011/06/27> Babel <v3.8m> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, lo aded. (/tmp/mw-ocg-latexer114624iv1bxs/output.tex (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/expl3.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3names.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3bootstrap.sty)) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/etex-pkg/etex.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3basics.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3expan.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3tl.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3seq.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3int.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3quark.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3prg.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3clist.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3token.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3prop.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3msg.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3file.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3skip.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3keys.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3fp.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3box.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3coffins.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3color.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3luatex.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3kernel/l3candidates.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/l3packages/xparse/xparse.sty) (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/fontspec/fontspec-patches.sty (/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/fixltx2e.sty) ************************************************* * LaTeX warning: "xparse/redefine-command" * * Redefining document command \oldstylenums with arg. spec. 'm' on line

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See the fontenc package documentation for explanation. Type H <return> for immediate help. ... l.99 \ProcessOptions* No pages of output. Transcript written on output.log. --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Error: { [Error: Latex Error! Check your latex string] code: 1, stdout: 'This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-0.9999.0 (TeX Live 2013/dev)\n restricted \\write18 enabled.\nentering extended mode\n(./output.tex\nLaTeX2e <2011/06/27>\nBabel <v3.8m> and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation,

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Package fontenc Error: Encoding file `eu1enc.def\' not found.\n(fontenc) You might have misspelt the name of the encoding.\n\nSee the fontenc package documentation for explanation.\nType H <return> for immediate help.\n ... \n \nl.99 \\ProcessOptions*\n \nNo pages of output.\nTranscript written on output.log.\n', stderr: '' } -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-01-27 C. Scott Ananian <cananian(a)wikimedia.org>

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C. Scott Ananian

10:35 p.m.

I don't happen to know the Fedora packages, but I'd be glad to add them to the README when you get a set which works. Unfortunately, the hard parts are identifying all the font packages, as package names for non-latin fonts seem to be wildly inconsistent even between different Ubuntu releases. :( --scott

Marco Fleckinger

28 Jan 28 Jan

1:16 a.m.

"C. Scott Ananian" <cananian(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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I don't happen to know the Fedora packages, but I'd be glad to add them to the README when you get a set which works.

may you also add it to the article: https://mediawiki.org/wiki/PDF_rendering/Installation/en

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Unfortunately, the hard parts are identifying all the font packages, as package names for non-latin fonts seem to be wildly inconsistent even between different Ubuntu releases. :(

Gerard Meijssen

8:15 a.m.

Hoi, Just a question, the WMF has invested a lot of effort in producing fonts for many of the languages it supports. These fonts are better than the fonts used in packages like Ubuntu. Is there a problem in using the WMF supported font ? It certainly makes the inconsistency in Ubuntu moot. Thanks, GerardM On 28 January 2014 00:16, Marco Fleckinger <marco.fleckinger(a)wikipedia.at>wrote;wrote:

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"C. Scott Ananian" <cananian(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

I don't happen to know the Fedora packages, but I'd be glad to add them to the README when you get a set which works.

may you also add it to the article: https://mediawiki.org/wiki/PDF_rendering/Installation/en

Unfortunately, the hard parts are identifying all the font packages, as package names for non-latin fonts seem to be wildly inconsistent even between different Ubuntu releases. :(

Hm interesting. Concerning Tex everything went quite for me on Debian, although Matthew shared Ubuntu's packet names. Is this relevant to the article as well? Marco -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Kartik Mistry

9:22 a.m.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Just a question, the WMF has invested a lot of effort in producing fonts for many of the languages it supports. These fonts are better than the fonts used in packages like Ubuntu. Is there a problem in using the WMF supported font ? It certainly makes the inconsistency in Ubuntu moot.

Only issue is that WMF supported font has to be installed as per packaging guideline (and path used by other packages) I'm working on it. See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729944 PS: Help is needed. Once, it is in Debian, Ubuntu and other OSs can easily adapt. -- Kartik Mistry/કાર્તિક મિસ્ત્રી | IRC: kart_ {kartikm, 0x1f1f}.wordpress.com

Amir E. Aharoni

10:25 a.m.

2014-01-28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>

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Hoi, Just a question, the WMF has invested a lot of effort in producing fonts for many of the languages it supports. These fonts are better than the fonts used in packages like Ubuntu.

Not exactly. WMF didn't really produce fonts. WMF packaged fonts for the Webfonts and later ULS extensions. Some were created by carving glyphs from existing fonts, such as Autonym and the font for Divehi, but that's about it.

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inconsistency in Ubuntu moot.

There's no problem in principle, but the packaging process is different. Webfonts are installed as part of a MediaWiki extension and the fonts for the PDF renderer are installed as packages on the server. The packaging mechanism is very different. It's a matter of configuration, a lot of configuration. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

C. Scott Ananian

6:38 p.m.

I did ask the language group for a list of WMF fonts at the outset. I am still very open to any guidance. That said, web fonts have very different requirements than high quality typographic fonts. As one example, web fonts need to have small file sizes. File size doesn't matter for typographic fonts, but they need to support bold face, italics, and advanced open type features for proper ligatures, kerning, accent placement, etc. In addition, since many articles combine short segments of text in different languages, I have tried to identify high quality fonts with a consistent style (serif fonts, consistent weight, etc). So far it has been most productive for me to respond to individual language speakers who can provide specific font recommendations for specific language groups. If someone wants to assemble a canonical list of WMF fonts for particular wikis as well as where the sources for those fonts can be found, that might be helpful. But most helpful would be reviewing the output in a specific script and letting me know if the font chosen is inappropriate (bad ligatures, overly casual, etc). --scott ps. and as to the root cause: the naming inconsistencies are with respect to the *package name*, not the *font name*. Even if Karthik is successful, that will just be a debian package. I would still have the same issues getting the fonts installed on Ubuntu LTS, Ubuntu 13, Fedora, etc, etc. So while knowing the names of the WMF fonts is helpful, especially long term, it's not the problem we're trying to solve right now.

C. Scott Ananian

6:55 p.m.

Answering my own questions, partially: The canonical list of fonts available through ULS is: https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FUniversalLanguageSe… Each directory has a font.ini file which specifies the canonical source of the font, as well as a reference to a bugzilla or gerrit issue where the font was specifically requested. From this I can usually manually reconstruct what language the font is for, and whether it is a "some users think this look nice" font, "we needed this for the wikimania 2014 wiki" or the actual default font for a particular language. This will be a good resource, but not a panacea. I will still need to evaluate fonts on a case-by-case basis for each language, and at times I will probably have to chose a non-ULS font for technical reasons. --scott

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Amir E. Aharoni
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Kartik Mistry
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