Hi, buddies. The Chinese Wikimedia users need some technical help from the developers at the Foundation.
As everyone here believes, the government of P.R. China has blocked access to all Wikimedia sites using its "Great Firewall"; Wikimedia contributors and users in Mainland China have to use proxies to visit Wikimedia sites. However, most of these proxies are unstable, so CNBlog.org (a famous and prominent advocacy of blogosphere in China operated by Social Brian Foundation, which hosted the First Chinese Blogger Conference last year) has setup a stable proxy for Chinese users.
With this service, Mainland Chinese users can access Chinese Wikipedia using http://wikipedia.cnblog.org, and Chinese Wikinews using http://wikinews.cnblog.org. There are over 16,000 visits and over 110,000 page requests per day this month. CNBlog.org has been very helpful to Chinese users, and it is planning to expand its proxy service to cover all Chinese Wikimedia projects, which is really great news.
Unfortunately, Chinese Wikimedia administrators are frowned upon an issue that came up recently: lots of vandalism is done using the CNBlog proxy. Currently, the IP of the CNBlog proxy is displayed and logged in edit history on Wikimedia. If an administrator blocks this IP (CNBlog proxy), all Mainland Chinese users who are using CNBlog proxy, either logged-in or not, will be blocked as well and not be able to contribute.
Some Chinese Wikipedians discussed this issue with CNBlog.org, and we believe that a technical solution should be feasible. We also discussed some technical details, and I will send another e-mail to wikitech-l regarding the details. Basically, we would like to have users' real IP (IP used to access CNBlog proxy) displayed and logged at Wikimedia.
We send this e-mail to here on behalf of many Chinese users. We hope to have kind attention and help from the Foundation. Thank you very much.
[[User:Shizhao]] [[User:R.O.C]] [[User:Yongxinge]] [[User:Mountain]]
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, mingli yuan wrote:
Hi, buddies. The Chinese Wikimedia users need some technical help from the developers at the Foundation.
Can you read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/XFF_project ?
If the proxy is properly configured, it will solve your problems.
Cheers, Andy!
But they use Apache 1.3 to redirect request. Could you please teach us how to config Apache 1.3 with XFF?
Thanks a lot.
On 3/28/06, Andy Rabagliati andyr@wizzy.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, mingli yuan wrote:
Hi, buddies. The Chinese Wikimedia users need some technical help from the developers at the Foundation.
Can you read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/XFF_project ?
If the proxy is properly configured, it will solve your problems.
Cheers, Andy!
Sorry for another stupid question since I dose not read this list often.
I noticed that the XFF page was created by Tim Starling several days ago. So is the XFF just a plan, or it have been put to use? If it is a plan, how about the progress and who should we contact with?
Thanks again.
On 3/28/06, mingli yuan mingli.yuan@gmail.com wrote:
But they use Apache 1.3 to redirect request. Could you please teach us how to config Apache 1.3 with XFF?
Thanks a lot.
On 3/28/06, Andy Rabagliati andyr@wizzy.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, mingli yuan wrote:
Hi, buddies. The Chinese Wikimedia users need some technical help from the developers at the Foundation.
Can you read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/XFF_project ?
If the proxy is properly configured, it will solve your problems.
Cheers, Andy!
It's not just a plan, it's in use.
However, if they set up the XFF, a developer will have to add them to the list of proxies which use XFF before it will work, so you'll have to send another mail after they fix it up.
Mark
On 28/03/06, mingli yuan mingli.yuan@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for another stupid question since I dose not read this list often.
I noticed that the XFF page was created by Tim Starling several days ago. So is the XFF just a plan, or it have been put to use? If it is a plan, how about the progress and who should we contact with?
Thanks again.
On 3/28/06, mingli yuan mingli.yuan@gmail.com wrote:
But they use Apache 1.3 to redirect request. Could you please teach us how to config Apache 1.3 with XFF?
Thanks a lot.
On 3/28/06, Andy Rabagliati andyr@wizzy.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, mingli yuan wrote:
Hi, buddies. The Chinese Wikimedia users need some technical help from the developers at the Foundation.
Can you read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/XFF_project ?
If the proxy is properly configured, it will solve your problems.
Cheers, Andy!
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
-- "Take away their language, destroy their souls." -- Joseph Stalin
I read it as "this is what you have to do to avoid being proxyblocked". The "plan" is to get everyone doing that.
Steve
On 3/28/06, Mark Williamson node.ue@gmail.com wrote:
It's not just a plan, it's in use.
However, if they set up the XFF, a developer will have to add them to the list of proxies which use XFF before it will work, so you'll have to send another mail after they fix it up.
Mark
On 28/03/06, mingli yuan mingli.yuan@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for another stupid question since I dose not read this list often.
I noticed that the XFF page was created by Tim Starling several days ago. So is the XFF just a plan, or it have been put to use? If it is a plan, how about the progress and who should we contact with?
Thanks again.
On 3/28/06, mingli yuan mingli.yuan@gmail.com wrote:
But they use Apache 1.3 to redirect request. Could you please teach us how to config Apache 1.3 with XFF?
Thanks a lot.
On 3/28/06, Andy Rabagliati andyr@wizzy.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, mingli yuan wrote:
Hi, buddies. The Chinese Wikimedia users need some technical help from the developers at the Foundation.
Can you read http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/XFF_project ?
If the proxy is properly configured, it will solve your problems.
Cheers, Andy!
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
-- "Take away their language, destroy their souls." -- Joseph Stalin _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
mingli yuan wrote:
Basically, we would like to have users' real IP (IP used to access CNBlog proxy) displayed and logged at Wikimedia.
Done. Tell me if you have any problems.
-- Tim Starling
Tim Starling schreef:
mingli yuan wrote:
Basically, we would like to have users' real IP (IP used to access CNBlog proxy) displayed and logged at Wikimedia.
Done. Tell me if you have any problems.
-- Tim Starling
On WikipediaNL whe have very frequently users who are blocked because the all use the same proxy's. More specific form
filternet.nl solcon.nl
There support department of that ISP is advising to use
$HTTP_SERVER_VARS["HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR"]
to reveal the users real ipadres.
Is there a way to make it work so we can block on there real ipadres? This whould help many users of the dutch Wikipedia.
Walter
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