Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 01:05, Roan Kattouw roan.kattouw@gmail.com wrote:
2010/4/2 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hello, Vector skin specialists,
There are serious RTL (right-to-left) problems with the Vector skin on Commons.
The thing is that the Vector skin outputs different HTML and different CSS based on whether the *content language* of the wiki is LTR or RTL. Commons's content language is English, so Vector will always output RTL HTML/CSS on Commons. The same applies to Monobook, but it so happens LTR Monobook is easier to hack with some CSS so it looks like RTL Monobook.
Certain issues, especially the tab order issue mentioned at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slomox#The_problem_with_tabs , are lesse easy to hack around. You can probably hack around even that by reordering elements in JS, but we should really just have the ability to show an RTL interface (but LTR content!) when the user language is an RTL language. This was filed ages ago as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6100
I already saw that bug and i hope that it will be solved soon. In the meantime i can live without a full-blown RTL Commons, but it's very important that file upload forms will work well and that it will possible to have a basic conversation on a user talk page. (I shall temporarily presume that serious conversations will be in English.)
Many Hebrew-speaking Wikipedians have useful free images to upload, but are intimidated by confusing forms which are either in Legalese-English or in Broken-RTL-Hebrew. Lately i've been translating templates, messages and policy pages there and in the worst case it's possible to set a page to be <div dir="rtl">, but it's more complicated with the forms.
Now it actually seems that the forms are OK, but other important parts of the interface are broken. Do these things have to go together? Is it possible to at least have the forms as they are now and to have the rest of the interface not broken?
Hi, Amir.
When the default interface is switched, the tab navigation on top, the left navigation, and the toolbar will be changed mainly. Forms such as upload forms will not be affected. I see what you mean by how the tab navigation is not lined up properly if your language preference is in RTL. The user experience tech team is looking into how we can improve it.
Thanks,
- Naoko