On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 01:39, Daniel Mayer wrote:
There are two delete links on them; one for the media file and one for the image description page. To properly delete a media file and it's description page ''both'' delete links have to be used.
No, just the "del" link next to the most recent in the list of image versions is sufficient, this will delete both the image and the page.
However that's no excuse -- the page deletion link should do this as well. Known problem, low priority, not fixed yet.
Another thing: there is no way to rename an media file or its corresponding image description page. Using the 'Move this page' feature brings up an error.
a) we don't have redirects for images, and I'm not sure we should. Without that, moving images would be different from moving pages -- exactly what you're trying to avoid! ;)
b) this means a lot more things to rename (files...); probably just grunt work though
Also, the time and dates of uploads are not displayed
Eh? Can you give an example of such a page? I'm looking at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Svcmap_gotland.png and I assure you it shows the date and time of upload.
and the different versions are listed in a separate history-like table (minus the dates and times).
No, *with* the dates and times.
Since the media file is content on the page it would make sense for changes in that content to be properly logged.
I agree, which is why you'll notice that it *does* list the date and time.
IMO the whole thing is a bit confusing and may need to be redesigned. Conceptually the media files can simply be thought of as another piece of content on a page and therefore treated accordingly (with one history, one delete link, and the ability to move the page).
Images are not their description pages. Image upload history and image description edit history cannot be conflated, because they are different things, and can be changed in different ways at different times through completely different methods (editing a text page, uploading a file).
Aside: "Image" is not the best namespace title for these pages since we allow non-image filetypes. "Media" would be better but that is already taken....
I suggested "File:" back in July, heard a whole lot of silence.
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