I believe that majority of users will not like to have to ask for some extra permissions in order to use some feature and so they will not ask for them and not use it. So in case this "tool edit" flag was restricted to some special permissions, users would keep using automated tools and their edits wouldn't be flagged at all. This is a reason why I think there shouldn't really be any restriction. I don't think we have many vandals out there who are able to damage wikipedia using API. There may be some, like 1 out of 10 000. But I doubt that it really would be a real problem.
I am basically fine with anything that would be possible to be used by tools (eg. it needs interface in API's) and that isn't restricted to some group permissions. People who have permissions to use tools on wikis, should be able to flag their edits as tool edits.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
Please excuse the combined replies.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Definitely worth discussing. For ENWP, I suggest bringing this up on VP:T.
Probably better to host the discussion on Meta, since it affects all wikis. Then you could advertise it on enwiki and other major wikis.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Petr Bena benapetr@gmail.com wrote:
As I said, I belive that any registered user should be able to use, with no need for permissions as I see no way to abuse it.
Well, there's marking edits as "tool" invalidly to the point where people can't filter these "tool" edits without missing vandalism.
Bot flag gives you higher api limits which can be abused,
I note you're conflating the 'bot' right (which is what allows for marking an edit as 'bot', and generally forces it for web UI edits) with the 'bot' group that includes several other rights.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Tim Landscheidt tim@tim-landscheidt.de wrote:
But I think it would be nice to add an option to the API to attach tags to edits if they are contained in a whitelist (so an editor cannot tag his edits as "hhvm" himself, but only for example as "tool edit").
TTO is working on that, with me as the main reviewer. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/188543/
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