Hi Anth?re,

As I already said, I think that people requesting to remove this kind of
banner are nor very responsible. It is necessary that this information
reaches everybody.

You are correct. It is necessary that information reaches everybody. We are currently trying to gather and centralize information and little by little we are really improving on this, *but* we are still expecting people to come voluntarily look for the information we gathered.
And this is just not happening. Some people go and look for information, but most are rather expecting to be directly given digested information. I do not criticize this attitude, it is mostly a question of time and of interest. Hunting for information is mostly a full time job :-) Once we start hunting for information, we do not have any more time available for other activities. This is just not efficient an option.

In short, we should not expect that people come to the information, but we should make the information goes to people. But collecting, digesting and translating information is heavy job, so we must find a way so that many people are involved in those steps.

I would not say those who requested the banner to be removed are not responsible, but rather that they are not informed.
It is perfectly understandable that people get upset because things happen without them being asked their opinion, or without them having enough information to just understand why this has been done. It is also perfectly understandable that they feel decisions are being dropped on them.

If they knew better our current financial situation, I think they would react differently. They would also react differently if the banner was not so aggressive. They would also react differently if they could immediately and easily translate it in local language, and also differently if they could locally choose for the banner to be on or to be off.

And indeed, donations call was mostly interesting on the english projects, because /. is in english; Still, some small wikipedia were happy to have the donation banner, and got upset *when* it was removed :-(

So...oh well...

Le Thursday 15 July 2004 14:47, Anthere a ?crit :
> I think another tool would be very much welcome. What I would like to see
> is something similar to the current ?you have a message?. A little warning
(...)
> Is this technically possible ? Is this suitable ? What do you think ? Do
> you have other ideas ?

I think that this is a great idea. It would meet most of the concerns people
have about this.

Regards,
Yann

I thank you very much Yann :-)