Il 18/03/2015 05:08, Danny Horn ha scritto:
Yes, the plan is for editing posts to go everywhere. We want to go a little bit extra slow with deploying that feature just to make sure that the pieces we've put in place actually work properly. So it's rolling out to Mediawiki.org next week, and then English and Russian WP the week after. (The people at Russian WP that we've been talking to said that they weren't even interested in test pages until we had editing posts, because Russian is hardcore.)
Having the ability to edit other people's posts can be very useful, but there's also a strong cultural tradition that says that we basically don't do it, except under certain circumstances. People using Flow won't necessarily come to it with that same tradition, so we want to see that the feature set encourages the useful editing, and doesn't encourage people to mess with the wording or intent of someone else's post. Once we've seen it in action for a little while, it'll go live to all the other languages.
Of course it should be used carefully and for minor changes only. I agree with T91086 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91086.
And I'm glad to hear that this thread has come close to almost inspiring optimism. That's what I'm here for.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:00 PM, MZMcBride z@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Ricordisamoa wrote:
Il 17/03/2015 23:29, Danny Horn ha scritto:
-- The ability to edit other people's posts will be out on Mediawiki by the end of next week. We’ve made a few interface changes to support that. Posts that have been edited by someone that isn’t the original poster now say “Edited by Username 3 minutes ago”, so that it’s easy for everyone to see what’s happened. When someone edits an existing post, we fixed the diff pages so that you can browse between previous and next changes. [1]
By "Mediawiki", do you mean www.mediawiki.org? I would like to stress the importance of such ability for *all* wikis. On Wikimedia, unlike most other sites, nothing is 'owned' by someone, and protection is only a precautionary measure. Flow is supposed to work with this model.
Agreed. The ability of anyone to revert bad edits also acts a major anti-abuse feature. As has been pointed out many times, there's a very real spam concern if only the author and admins can edit posts.
-- Make the links to threads look nicer -- Yeah, this is annoying. It’s not in our top five list of annoyances at the moment, but we’ll keep checking off annoying items. Nicer links will get its turn. [5] [5] Less ugly topic page links: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59154
Erik B. says on that task that the deployment of ContentHandler should help. This is excellent news.
Thanks for the detailed and timely reply.
My thanks as well! This e-mail really helped alleviate some of my concerns with Flow's development. I have too much experience with Flow's predecessor LiquidThreads to say that I'm optimistic, but I'm definitely less concerned now about Flow's future than I was when I started the day.
MZMcBride
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