At 18:46 02/02/03 +0100, you wrote:
I apologize when I insulted people here. Nevertheless, I would prefer a more neutral, term. The word 'hacker' might scare people and it doesn't sound very 'inviting' to me.
Specification and clear documentation is much more important than implementation!
Users where not coders. Users where nothing to do with code. Users where something to do with features.
A feature without clean documenteion = feature unimplemention.
But this stament: "Specification and clear documentation is much more important than implementation!", Is extreme. Or wrong. Anyway IMHO.
Note:
thanks to all people that design and help wikipedia!!
I personally hate maintaining software, keep adding features forever, updating, debugging, etc. I love 'design'.
Well, sorry for bothering you all. Thanks for correcting me and giving me stuff to read about 'hacking', Erik.
Don't know in which way I can contribute to Wikipedia-software-development for I almost don't know anything about databases and database-locking (which seems to give rise to performance-problems).
Sorry for crying out nonsense here; thank you for always responding; but most of all thanks for making Wikipedia at all possible, in that regard you're really doing a great job!
Pieter Suurmond
Erik Moeller wrote:
They should be given a proper place (don't remove!). They should however be separated from 'development'.
Software-development and maintainance is a very serious business, please don't call it 'hacking' any longer because Wikipedia is reaching adulthood. :-) (Grown-up software-developers don't call themselves 'hackers': It's all about thinking and mathematics!)
Insulting nonsense. There are plenty of "grown-up" software developers who call themselves hackers. Ask the people at
http://zgp.org/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackersor the folks working on the Linux kernel:
http://www.kernelhacking.org/for example. I wouldn't say that these people are not capable of thinking or do not understand mathematics.
Wikipedia is an open source project, and in the open source community, the term "hacker" has a much different tradition from other development groups. It is a perfectly appropriate term for the development process, unless you see open source itself as "unprofessional" and "not for grown- ups" (in which case you should don your asbestos suit..)
Regards,
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