2010/10/15 Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+wikilist(a)gmail.com>om>:
The problem is not about attitudes, it's systemic.
You're generalizing in ways that are invalid. Your behavior on this
list, MZMcBride's behavior on this list, Trevor's behavior on this
list, my behavior on this list -- all those things are very specific
to us as individuals, and so are the community dynamics that result.
There's no inevitability of outcomes, we're shaping these outcomes
together now. That's, as far as I understand it, the essence of Roan's
point. We can all work together to create a constructive and healthy
atmosphere, all the time. And if we take our mission and our ambitions
seriously, we all have an obligation to do so. It's fair to point out
when anyone of us, as individuals, fail to do so.
I didn't brush aside your points earlier, nor did Danese, nor did Tim,
nor did others who responded to you. If you want to feel slighted, you
have all the right and time in the world to do so. But again, that's
your personal choice, not "systemic".
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