Thank you for the pointer to the shortcuts-page. Tried some of them, they
didn't work... I'l try to remember to write a bug tomorrow.
Selected text, tried Control-M, bolding did not go away. Backslash is not
an easy character to reach on Norwegian keyboards, it is way off on some of
them. Control-M is more manageable.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On 2016-03-13 19:49, John Erling Blad wrote:
A lot of things are much simpler in VisualEditor,
but a lot of stuff is
harder to do or simply does not work. It doesn't matter if things look
shiny if people use a lot more time doing the same task. One area is
editing from the keyboard, how can we do all the same things at least
equally fast - not just that we can do them?
At least speaking for the OOjs UI library (on top of which VisualEditor's
interface is built), I can assure you that a lot of effort goes into making
all actions available from keyboard only, and making our interfaces at
least no worse than the "native" ones. I think the VisualEditor team shares
these principles.
There are some things which take more key presses (you just have fewer
"degrees of freedom" when instead of arbitrarily many buttons, you have a
finite set of keyboard keys, especially after you exclude keys ordinarily
used for typing text), and things which are slightly different than native
ones (for example, dropdown lists are different in every OS and every
browser, and we try not to do anything browser-specific, so our dropdowns
are probably different yet). But we try our best.
We insert a lot of top-notices (article marks), and edit them, but how can
we do it fast? Yes we can add top-notices as
templates, but they are
hardly
fast to add that way.
This is supposed to be doable from the keyboard:
1. Type '{{' to open template insert dialog
2. Type the template name (the right field should be focused), confirm
with Enter
3. Press Tab a few times until focus moves to the 'Insert' button,
confirm with Enter
...but, something is definitely not right at the last step. I just tried
and the focus moved through a few invisible buttons first; filed this as
T129791 [1]. Another improvement would be to be able to confirm the dialog
with Ctrl+Enter from any field, David actually implemented this recently
[2] and it should reach Wikipedias next week.
[1]
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129791
[2]
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/274984/
We link and delink articles, but how can we do it fast?
To remove a link from some text, select it and press Ctrl+\ (that's the
backslash) or Ctrl+M. (This also removes any other formatting, like bold or
italic.)
To add or edit a link, press Ctrl+K with the text selected. You can just
confirm with Enter, or edit it and confirm them.
By the way, there's a list of all available keyboard shortcuts built into
VisualEditor – it's under the '?' button on the toolbar, or under the
Ctrl+? shortcut :)
--
Bartosz Dziewoński
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