Hello Amir, thanks for your questions. Having discussed this back and forth in the team, our original plan was to deploy to a few wikis first to find out how many users actually don't want a shared setting. But thanks to, among other things, the feedback we received over the last announcement, we have now come to the conclusion that separate settings make more sense. That also means, Reference Previews won't go out of beta just yet, but hopefully next month.
@all: If you like the idea of having Reference Previews with a separate setting as a default feature on your wiki, please let me know. Having a few more wikis for this first step would be great.
_______________________________________________Why did you decide to do it like this despite requests from multiple people to keep them separated?What are the advantages of unifying them, and why do you think they outweigh the disadvantages?What kind of user reaction can make you change your mind—user complaints, a certain rate of disabling the preference, something else?בתאריך יום ה׳, 11 במרץ 2021, 18:51, מאת Johanna Strodt <johanna.strodt@wikimedia.de>:Hello Mathieu,we have received feedback in both directions, both to have a shared setting and to have separate ones. We would like to start with a shared setting to see how users actually react.Best,JohannaAm Mi., 3. März 2021 um 23:47 Uhr schrieb Mathieu Lovato Stumpf Guntz <psychoslave@culture-libre.org>:What about grouping them, with specific hidden options by default?
That is if you opt out the group, both are disabled. If you enable the group, you gain the possibility to unfold subcases.
Also if at some point the list become really too long, you might consider an option search filter. Actually, given that we have already more options on several tabs than what can be displayed on a confortable desktop screen, I think this length limit was already crossed a long time ago.
Cheers
Le 03/03/2021 à 12:47, Johanna Strodt a écrit :
Thanks, Amir!
What can people do if they want to see Reference Previews, but not Page Previews?
Currently, nothing. The plan is to offer both features in combination. As for this shared setting, we received different feedback: Some wanted a combined setting to keep the number of user settings small, others wanted a separate setting. For now, we have decided to go with a shared setting.
The Page Previews user preferences will be respected. In a scenario where a user has Page Previews disabled, Reference Previews will also be disabled.If an editor currently has the Reference Previews beta feature enabled and the Page Previews (Popups) feature disabled, will they get both enabled or both disabled after the deployment of the combined feature?
Best,Johanna
Am Mi., 3. März 2021 um 11:31 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>:
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בתאריך יום ד׳, 3 במרץ 2021 ב-11:44 מאת Johanna Strodt <johanna.strodt@wikimedia.de>:
Reference Previews will be combined with Page Previews[2], a feature showing previews for linked articles. Both perform essentially the same function: previewing content before deciding to dig deeper, and easily providing more information while reading. Because of their similarities in design and behavior, both Page Previews and Reference Previews will be controlled by a single user setting. This means, all users who currently have Page Previews activated, will also get Reference Previews. Also, all readers, anonymous contributors and new users will see Reference Previews per default if they haven’t disabled Page Previews.
What can people do if they want to see Reference Previews, but not Page Previews?
If an editor currently has the Reference Previews beta feature enabled and the Page Previews (Popups) feature disabled, will they get both enabled or both disabled after the deployment of the combined feature?
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