On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:01:00 -0700, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 22 August 2012 16:52, Ryan Lane
<rlane32(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Tyler Romeo
<tylerromeo(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
As long as people in the templating community
were at least consulted
with,
then that's fine. I'm just saying we
cannot randomly throw features
onto
users without discussing it with them.
A good default assumption would be that we've done what we're supposed
to be doing as software developers. User testing is a normal part of
software development. It's kind of bad faith to assume we're not
engaging end-users at all.
I hear what you're saying Ryan - although in fairness there is some
history
there, and also some very significant challenges on all sides to actually
communicate. However, one has to keep in mind that sometimes the
definition of "end user" can be pretty different. On reading this
thread,
I have the sense that lots of people commenting here see template
creators/curators as the "end user" - but they aren't in any conventional
sense. The end user is the person who actually uses the template.
Risker/Anne
How?
I don't see how the user who puts {{cite|...}} and never takes one look at
the source for Template:Cite is the end user.
Template inclusion syntax is the same. No matter if cite uses ugly
ParserFunctions, Lua, or makes a call out to a custom written extension
the syntax used to include the template stays the exact same. I don't see
how these users who never even look at template source should care what
the template they use is powered by.
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~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [