On 1 January 2011 02:03, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On this note, MTV Networks (my previous job) switched
Mediawiki to Confluence a couple years ago.
There's a certain large media organisation in the UK that uses
Confluence for WYSIWYG and access control lists. And not MediaWiki. I
could have talked them past the ACLs, but not the lack of WYSIWYG.
That's one of the reasons I'm so very gung-ho on the stuff.
They mainly cited ease of
use and Microsoft Office integration as the reasons.
It doesn't have ease of use at all. What it has is a features list and
a sales team.
In terms of ease of use, my current workplace has an official
Plone-based intranet and a few less-official MediaWiki installations.
Our office wiki is ridiculously easier to actually use than the Plone
site, despite the lack of WYSIWYG (FCK was pretty good, but not quite
good enough). The Plone site is a write-only
Personally I hated
it, except for the dashboard interface, which was
pretty slick. Some
Wikipedia power-users have similar dashboard style interfaces that they
have custom built on their User Pages, but I think it would be cool if
we let people add these sort of interfaces without having to be a
The sort of interface I'm talking about would include stuff like
community and WikiProject notices and various real-time stats. If you
were a vandal fighter, you would get a vandalism thermometer, streaming
incident notices, a recent changes feed, etc. If you were a content
reviewer, you would get lists of the latest Featured Article and Good
Article candidates, as well as the latest images nominated for Featured
Picture Status, and announcements from the Guild of Copyeditors. The
possibilities are endless.
On 12/31/10 4:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
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Meanwhile, MediaWiki is perhaps too powerful and
too complex to
administer for the small organization. I work with a small group of
artists that run a MediaWiki instance and whenever online collaboration
has to happen, nobody in this group says "Let's make a wiki page!"
That used to happen, but nowadays they go
straight to Google Docs.
Well, that's bad. But people will choose the wrong tools; I don't think
that's evidence that MediaWiki's Broken As Designed.
"Too powerful and complex to administer"?
It needs administration? In a small organization?
I set one up at my previous employers, and used it to take all my notes,
which required exactly zero administration: I just slapped it on a box,
and I was done.
And my successor is *very* happy about it. :-)
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