Hey Folks,

I just wanted to flag that we heard the question and had circle up to get you an informed answer as the answer spans several teams. The most literal answer to Ostrzyciel's email is: "no, there are no plans or resources allocated to doing anything other than fix breaking upload wizard bugs on Commons". The longer answer is that we know we have to improve the upload wizard and it's a matter of resourcing and prioritization. The caveat is that it is unlikely that the WMF will work on an upload wizard that is specific to the needs of 3rd party wikis, anytime soon. For the Commons use case, I think it's much more likely.

Many of us in product have been pushing for a team dedicated to multimedia improvements for several years, but as I hope you can understand, other priorities have taken precedence. You are free to disagree that project X is more important than UW, as these are decisions for which there is plenty of educated opinion, but no right answer. Even on this year's community wishlist, upload Wizard improvements did not fit in the top 5 most-voted improvements for multimedia. Again, we want to work on this, it's just that other work has been prioritized above it and, believe it or not, at our size, we are stretched pretty thinly.

I don't have the answer to the stewardship question, K Peachey. I'm copying Jean-Rene who chairs that group in case he has any insights.

Thanks,

Jon Katz

Director of Product

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:09 AM Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com> wrote:

În joi, 4 feb. 2021 la 16:54, Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@gmail.com> a scris:
>
> On 2021-02-03 23:33, Strainu wrote:
> > One thing that puzzles me in that ticket is this phrase from Mark
> > Traceur: "It might be better to look at something (slightly) more
> > modern, like the upload dialog in core". Does anyone know what that
> > dialog is? AFAIK the uploader in core (Special:Upload) hasn't changed in
> > decades, except maybe for the look of the buttons. Its usability is
> > rubbish compared to UW. Wikis used to (no, actually they still do)
> > customize it using the uselang param,which messes with the user's
> > settings. I can't really understand how that would be better...
>
> The upload dialog is this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Upload_dialog
>
> It's accessible from both the visual and wikitext editors (unless you
> disabled the toolbar), though their dialogs to insert image thumbnails.

Thanks to all who enlightened me. :)

We're basically talking cross-wiki uploader here in the Wikimedia
world (although I'm sure it can be used for other things). I agree
with Ostrzyciel's assessment that it lets anyone upload anything -
that's what prompted the request to disable cross-wiki uploads in the
first place. The UW, in collaboration with campaigns, remains the most
powerful web uploader the Wikimedia community currently has.

Strainu
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