While we're at, I would like to mention that these upload dialogs really don't help with enforcing any kind of image description standard. They allow users to just drag and drop files, which is intuitive and nice, but also does not ask them to specify the source of the media. In my practice, this leads to users just ignoring the wiki's rules and throwing in whatever media they find. We actually hacked both WikiEditor and VisualEditor to disable these upload dialogs and redirect people straight to UploadWizard, so that any kind of standard could be enforced.
To be honest, I'm rather surprised that nobody on e.g. enwikipedia has picked up on this issue. They have a
complex wizard in place, full of explanations of what is free and non-free media, where to upload it and under what circumstances it can be used. These simple upload dialogs in the editor lack this back-and-forth dialog with the user, explaining rules and asking for information, step by step. Also, that enwikipedia non-free wizard looks very much like a simplified version of UW, which just shows how much needed is a robust solution to uploading media with precise descriptions.
On 4/2/21 6:33 am, Strainu wrote:
> One thing that puzzles me in that ticket is this phrase from Mark
> Traceur: "It might be better to look at something (slightly) more
> modern, like the upload dialog in core". Does anyone know what that
> dialog is? AFAIK the uploader in core (Special:Upload) hasn't changed
> in decades, except maybe for the look of the buttons. Its usability is
> rubbish compared to UW. Wikis used to (no, actually they still do)
> customize it using the uselang param,which messes with the user's
> settings. I can't really understand how that would be better...
I guess it means this:
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/#!/api/mw.Upload.Dialog
Which I think is only used in the WikiEditor extension. Maybe the dialog
is in core because there was a plan to move WikiEditor into core?
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