I think that people using old browsers on desktop, are most surely doing it because they have to (company policy on locked down computers) and showing them a banner or similar is only going to detract from their experience with information they don't neither want nor need.
In mobile the situation is a lot different, grade C doesn't mean old crappy browser, but it means HTML only browser, and there are millions of people opting in to those experiences to get a faster and more data constrained experience, because of the cost of mobile data on their countries, or the speeds of the network. Those people are using Opera mini or UC browser at will, because it is actually a better experience for them, and showing them a banner about changing to a different browser when their browser is neither old, nor outdated, is only going to be a negative experience for them on the sites.
I personally don't think it is worth doing generally for all grade C. Maybe it is worth identifying specific UA or UA ranges of browsers that are specially problematic and that we know are usually used by choice and not forced upon the user, and showing a message to those only. That way we could avoid degrading the experience to users that are using a grade C by choice, like the Opera mini ones.
My 2 cents.
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 7:40 AM Gergo Tisza gtisza@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Bryan Davis bd808@wikimedia.org wrote:
In my personal past experience, Firefox crashes were almost always correlated with buggy user installed, community developed extensions.
Which are going to be axed in the next release and replaced with a Chrome-like limited-but-safe API for extensions, and that has everyone up in arms. It's hard to please users :)
In any case I would care more about linking to a user-friendly and well-maintained landing page (e.g. does it offer useful choices if you visit it from a mobile device?) than the specific selection of browsers offered - given the relatively small ratio of grade C visits, we are unlikely to alter the browser landscape much either way. And I doubt we want to deal with maintaining such a page ourselves. _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l