NB: Although "whit" is actually a valid English word, it is uncommon nowadays and I'm pretty sure you meant to say "with".
Cheers Mark
On 17/08/05, Walter Vermeir . walter@wikipedia.be wrote:
Crosspost to: foundation-l, wikitech-l
At the end of 2002 on my request the mailing list Announce-l was created.
This because I noticed there was a serious problem whit internal communication inside Wikipedia. Changes where done to the software, important decisions where made whitout anybody who is not a mailing list junky to know about it. Especially the problem to get information form the English language community to the others.
The idea was to use the mailing list Announce-l for the announcement of important things that have a impact for all wikipedias in all languages. This for technical and organisational matters. So at least it could be possible to inform the non-English wikipdias about what was going on and maybe even give some feedback.
It has received whit an 100% positive responds but only one (1) reaction. Again; thank you Daniel Mayer. So it never happened.
We are now 3 years later.
In general, things are a bit better. Aldo I think my original idea would still be useful.
Now I would like to ask of the following "light edition" of Announce-l can get support and implemented.
- use Announce-l for the reporting of problems whit the operation of the
services of the Wikimedia projects. Status reports about it and when it works again.
Not for discussing or for bug rapports, only to inform the community. A moderated list, low traffic.
This should be done by the technical staff of wikimedia.
Examples;
== search function ==
Some time ago a received by the email system for questions to the Dutch Wikipedia some questions why the can not find the new articles the have written.
I know that the search function is not live but it works whit a special search database. So I asked them to wait until an update. But because it takes so long for the update I have asked on the lists about it. It seems that the update system is broken so new articles can not be found.
So now I can inform other users when there are questions about it and can put up an notice on the search page about this.
When will I work again? I can only test to see.
For something like this Announce-l can be used. When it is known that the update function for the search system does not work anymore a member of the technical staf can send an message to Announce-l. And when it works again or there is news about it again.
== OTRS ==
On a normal day the Dutch Wikipedia receives about 8 emails form visitors. How the emails are done is an important part of how we can make a good impression. All emails must be answered fast and professional.
Because I noticed the lack of new emails I start investigation. On bugzilla no clue, only a ticket a have created so time ago when OTRS was also not working. On the IRC #wikimedia-servers (or something like that) I found a notice that OTRS is down. The last message I have received from OTRS is from Saturday 13 august around 12 hours GMT. I have discovered it Tuesday around 22:00 hours.
When I know OTRS does not work or will not work I can redirect the incoming emails so the do not go to OTRS and we can answer them outside OTRS. But I need to know it does not work to do so.
Also for this Announce-l would be very useful. Send an email "OTRS is down, emails are in a que" or so and again when it works again.
Or when there will be an upgrade of MediaWiki. To say between X and x we will upgrade the wiki to version X of MediaWiki. During the upgrade the database will be locked for about 10 minutes.
Sysops will have after the upgrade have the option to rename account. See http://some-place_whit_more_info.org
Now new functions are discovered after an upgrade.
If, and only if, Announce-l is always used for this type of things this list can become very useful for those wikipedians who like to inform there community and visitors about what i going on whit there wiki.
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