--- Vincent Ramos <siva-nataraja+spam(a)alussinan.org>
wrote:
Le Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT), Anthere
<anthere6(a)yahoo.com> wrote
Recently, a new editor (a french language
teacher)
got
on the french wiki. He insists on using these
unbreakable spaces. As far as I know, he is the
only
one.
You should see what other say; for instance Didup,
Panoramix (I quote: "Je
suis l'un des integristes de la typographie ici (je
mets des vrais
guillemets, des espaces insecables, etc.")), Mokona,
etc.
Key word : integrist :-) (you said it)
However, for
some reasons I can't explain, my
browser
(a brand new one, last version, unicode friendly,
page
over 32 kb friendly, etc...) appears to be
"breaking"
these spaces. Though I can't figure how it is
doing
so. When I look at the history, I see nothing I
can
explain.
Still, Vincent insists that I do break his text.
To
fix it, he has to either revert my changes, or
fix
them himself, isssue upon which he is strongly
complaining so requesting that I fix the stuff
myself.
Fact is, I can't see what I do wrong, and I
can't
imagine myself editing by hand his comments myself
each time I edit an article or talk page, to avoid
removing the non-breakable space (if only I could
figure how not to do so !)
Well, let me give you a real example:
<http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Th%E9_chinois&diff=71928&oldid=71914>
If you had looked at the source with an hexadecimal
editor, you could have
seen (first line, from "Note" to ":"):
* my version: 4E 6F 74 65 A0, that is <N>, <o>, <t>,
<e> and <[ ]> (non-
breakable space);
* Anthere's version: 4E 6F 74 65 20 ; that is <N>,
<o>, <t>, <e>, <[ ]>
(space).
Thus, Anthere made U+00A0 (NBSpace), a normal raw
ISO-8859-1 character,
become U+0020, the normal space.
Anyone can verify this fact
Vincent Ramos
Yes. Anyone. But then what do you suggest ?
To a certain point, I do not care whether you or I are
responsible of this. Clearly, our editing ways are
incompatible. Still we are on the same place, so we
need to find a solution
Five solutions
1) a technical explanation and solution is found, and
you or I is able to make it up to solve the technical
issue
2) You clearly see that I can't do anything to avoid
this, so each time you edit a page, and I edit it
after you, you go after me without complaining and
correct each and other non-breaking space (admitedly,
that makes a lot)
3) Each time you write an article, you put your name
at the top of the page, and we officially declare I am
forbidden to edit this page. Potentially an issue in
terms of wiki principle
4) You or I agree to quit wikipedia
5) We do not accept non-breakable spaces on the french
wikipedia
So ? Does anyone has an idea for option 1 ?
Cheers
Anthere
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