Hi Travis and all the others!
Thank you very much for your quick and thorough response.
Indeed, I’ve read the text but not the sheet above it ;)
On Windows XP I’m using Firefox 52.9.0 ESR or
Extended Support Release (not Internet Explorer). And additionally Mypal, based
on Firefox 68 Quantum. Both give out the same error as I’ve shown before.
I understand and respect the MediaWiki’s position to
stop support for older browsers. But I would like to understand what has been
changed in the coding algorithm two weeks ago, so the pictures and maps are not
showing up in the browsers I use.
Thanks and kind regards!
Martini
Hi Martini,
Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! First, I have to tell you that
Microsoft stopped supporting (so called "End Of Life") Windows XP in
2014, but I'm sure you are aware of that. I can't directly speak for
MediaWiki or English Wikipedia, but at most tech projects I've worked on,
browsers that are literally 20 years old are supported on what's called a
"best effort" basis. This means that, while the project won't work to
actively "break" those browsers, we can't guarantee that they will
work tomorrow, or the next day, etc.
All that said, the link you shared (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Compatibility_browser),
shows the following:
If we attempt to look up your browser (I assume IE 7 or 8) and
Operating System (WIndows XP), we see that neither are listed as "still
supported". Your browser would be classified as "Unknown (Grade
X)" and the minimum operating system for Windows is Windows 7 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7),
which came out after Windows Vista. Windows Vista was the OS version after
Windows XP. So your OS is two major versions behind the minimum requirement.
Please feel free to post additional questions.
Thanks,
-Travis
On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 7:58 PM Leonid G via Wikitech-l <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Dear Wikitechs,
my username is „Martinitolove”, since 12 years I’m contributing in several languages and am very glad to feel myself a part of a greater team to provide knowledge to the world!
All these years I’m using a Windows XP laptop with Firefox 52.9.0 (32-bit) on it, and am quite happy with it (won’t change the system). But since two weeks most pictures and map links are not showing up properly. Here are the screenshots as an example of one page in three languages and an example of a picture file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fYqWSfaJ18Zperk4-9XtwWqPBPZWv4ZL/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fcd9RMvy0dAP8fQT8wQbowOKBJ1XQcUk/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OLszK9GZRb0U_DGI0NFhCqg3H9YmjUrD/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Co47IT2LbCFiX0K84wns7WlrsCGucEvQ/view?usp=sharing
Was a coding algorithm at Wikipedia changed or support for older browsers disabled? According to this (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Compatibility_browser) my browser is still supported. If it has been caused by mistake, then could you please turn it back on?
Thanks and kind regards!
Martini
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