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On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:
With the Foundation's support, I've spent the last few months churning
away at LiquidThreads , a new discussion system that is proposed for
use on Wikimedia projects.
Essentially, it's an attempt to marry the radical openness of the wiki
paradigm with the usability and practicality of a forum-like system. As
the name implies, LiquidThreads is designed to allow any user to easily
refactor discussions while maintaining edit history, to edit other
users' comments, and to collaborate on a summary of an ongoing
discussion. LiquidThreads also brings many standard communication
features lacking from wiki discussion pages, such as watching and
protecting individual discussion threads, RSS feeds of comments in a
discussion or on a discussion page. In the world of online
communication, its approach is entirely unique.
LiquidThreads has been in alpha testing on Wikimedia Labs  for
several months, and, more recently, it's been used in a production
context on the strategy wiki, where it has been quite well-received.
It's been easy to run these smaller trials, as the extension allows the
activation and deactivation of LiquidThreads discussions on individual
pages with a simple parser function.
While there are still some issues remaining before wider trials, I
believe I can resolve most of them quite quickly (within a few weeks
when my vacation finishes at the end of next month), and I'd like to get
the ball rolling in proposing small-scale trials on some of the larger
wikis, so that a full discussion can be had, and so that adjustments can
be made on the basis of ongoing feedback. I'd especially like to see
LiquidThreads used on some of the higher-traffic discussion pages on
English Wikipedia (such as the technical village pump), and progressive
rollout on some of our mid to large sized wikis.
So, I'd like to encourage you to have a play with LiquidThreads, either
on the strategy wiki or on the test site (which generally runs a newer
version). Tell me what you like about it, and (far more importantly)
what improvements you think it needs before we can expand our trials to
wider parts of the Wikimedia Universe, and perhaps move towards a full
rollout of this very exciting technology.
I should give the following caveats about LiquidThreads as it stands.
These are all issues that I intend to address before any trial expansion
* Presently the system is somewhat vulnerable to abuse. I intend to make
changes to the way signatures work, and improve tracking and listing of
thread actions by specific users.
* While LiquidThreads allows for thread summaries and discussion
headers, the system does not currently have support for
collaboratively-edited posts which are unsigned or signed by a group of
people. These are a key piece of any decision-making framework, and I
intend to make adjustments to make this possible.
* There is no support for embedding LiquidThreads discussion pages on
* There are plenty of minor interface issues which I intend to clean up.
Feedback is best directed to the dedicated Feedback page , or,
alternatively, to bugzilla  (although before filing a bug, you should
check the list of existing LiquidThreads bugs ).
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