On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, James Forrester jforrester@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 16 December 2014 at 04:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjorsch@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis < marcoil@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display languages for
users,
else those users with different languages will see different reference styles on the same page.
That sounds like bug T33216, which was fixed a while ago. Does this actually occur now?
No, this is talking about the problem of changing the rendering styles needing to be done in each of the customised languages manually through the translation system (and being totally unlike what the translation system on TranslateWiki.net generally uses and is suited for). It was not meant to be referring to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T33216, which I believe is still fixed, yes.
I note that all the formatting messages are marked as "optional" or "ignore" for TranslateWiki,[1] and most languages are already falling back to the English versions. It also looks like we could reduce the number of languages not falling back significantly by killing the ones that are identical to the English, and the few that are left (besides maybe cite_references_link_many_format_backlink_labels) look to me like they'd probably be better as local-wiki customizations.
I'm not trying to say the rest of the reasons for doing this aren't good, just that "updating 300 translations" doesn't seem to actually be a problem that needs solving.
[1]: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/translatewiki.git/d5ad344d/groups%2FMediaWiki...