tic@tictric.net wrote:
A page Albert_Einstein gets categorised as [[Category:Albert_Einstein|Einstein, Albert]] and shows up as E Albert_Einstein where it shoud be E Einstein, Albert. That's weird.
It always shows the actual title.
I think the point in his posting was to say that it *should not* always show the actual title, and I agree with him. We shouldn't have "Albert Einstein" under E, we should have "Einstein, Albert".
I always thought this was going to be done, and I actually thought that the fact that it used the string only as a sort key but not for display, was a bug. Personally, I think it should be "fixed". :-)
"Einstein, Albert" is ugly - it looks like a paper encyclopedia. There's nothing wrong with displaying grammatically correct "Albert Einstein", even when its ordered by family name.
I don't think it matters whether it appears ugly or not ugly to the one or the other. People are different :)
What does matter is, that especially in a Wiki one should also have the freedom to choose for himself what way he would like to have it. Still others have the freedom to change it again.
Maybe like [[category:People|:Einstein, Albert]] would sort it as E Einstein, Albert and [[category:People|::Einstein, Albert]] would sort it as A Albert_Einstein AND E Einstein, Albert. (I don't know if that makes sense. It just came to my mind.) On BIG Category pages I can imagine that there might occur the need to list on thing twice. I can't think of an english example but in german we got to common notations for joiner. "Tischler" and "Schreiner". Both of them describe the very same thing. A Joiner. If he comes from south germany he'll look for Schreiner, if he comes from up north he'll look for Tischler. The official notation is "Tischler".
So we need on the page "Tischler" [[category:professions|::Schreiner]]
Cheers Manfred