As I said, I belive that any registered user should be able to use,
with no need for permissions as I see no way to abuse it. Bot flag
gives you higher api limits which can be abused, but this would just
work to make it easier for users to hide out your edits. The
permission could be individually changed though per wiki if users
wanted to have it restricted.
The difference from bot flag is that bots are robots, not users, you
probably want to keep them separated. Giving bot flag to a regular
user is probably not a best idea.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
<amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
It's relevant for all projects and languages.
I haven't done it in a while, but I had my periods of massive AWB editing,
and other RC patrollers rightly complained about it and asked me to do such
things with a bot account.
<thinkingoutloud>The question is, how would it be different from the usual
bot accounts. Last time I checked, AWB worked through a browser control and
not through API (though again, it was a while ago). And which users will
have a permission to use it? Some "trusted" users? Autoconfirmed? AWB has
its own permissions system based on wiki pages, so maybe this could be
discarded of a new "tool edit" permission.</thinkingoutloud>
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2015-02-11 11:10 GMT+02:00 Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com>om>:
Definitely worth discussing. For ENWP, I suggest
bringing this up on VP:T.
Thanks,
Pine
On Feb 11, 2015 12:45 AM, "Petr Bena" <benapetr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I think I proposed this once but I forgot the outcome.
I would like to implement a new feature called "tool edit" it would be
pretty much the same as "bot edit" but with following differences:
-- Every registered user would be able to flag edit as tool edit (bot
needs special user group)
-- The flag wouldn't be intended for use by robots, but regular users
who used some automated tool in order to make the edit
-- Users could optionally mark any edit as tool edit through API only
The rationale is pretty clear: there is a number of tools, like AWB
and many others that produce incredible amounts of edits every day.
They are spamming recent changes page -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges can't be filtered
out and most of regular users are not interested in them. This would
make it possible to filter them out and it would also make it easier
to figure out how many "real edits" some user has made, compared to
automated edits made by tools.
Is it worth implementing? I think yes, but not so sure.
Thanks
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